Antigravity Research

John,

I know our human eye visual spectrum is limited , but we have telescopes that look out into the universe in nearly every spectrum of radiation.

The Graviton is a "postulated quantum Particle", or carrier of the gravitational field, analogous to the well-established photon of the electromagnetic field. Gravitons, like photons, would be traveling at the speed of light and would be emitted only by highly accelerating, extremely massive objects such as stars. Graviton is postulated to be its own antiparticle, to have zero charge and rest mass, and a spin of 2. Since gravitons are apparently identical to their antiparticles, the notion of antigravity is questionable


What is a particle?
What is its shape?
Why does it exist?
What is it made of?




There is a strong analogy between the photon and the graviton. EM forces are propagated by virtual photons, and of course we detect 'real' photons in the form of (classical) EM radiation. Similarly, since the graviton must be massless (since gravity has an infinite range), the graviton can only be 'detected' analogously to the way that the photon is detected, i.e., in the detection of 'classical' gravity waves. Part of the idea of unification theory is that at high enough energies all four forces 'merge', and can be propagated by the same particle (i.e., this has been shown to be the case for the EM and weak interaction, and hence they are often referred to collectively as the electro-weak interaction I think you would need a particle accelerator bigger than the size of the Earth to get to energies high enough for all of the forces to be unified

Isaac Newton discovered gravity. He said that gravity is the force that attracts masses to one another. Since then, the idea of gravity has progressed. There is a hypothesis that states that the attraction between masses (gravity) exists through the exchange of gravitons.


Not my quote
Gravitons are particles that every mass gives off. Gravitons are very interesting particles because they might have no mass! Gravitons are exchanged between everythingthis means you are exchanging gravitons with the sun and even your friends! Because gravitons have no mass, no one can see them. , but we can feel their effect.

Cross out what you think is wrong and respond to what you think is right about my post. I must give more than one option

Alan

Alan



I feel as if I am a small boy holding but a teaspoon of knowledge standing before the Infinity Ocean of all knowledge

John
I have long thought about this concept of nothingness at some times so deeply that I had to retract my mind from the horror of it.

The belief by most astrophysicists is that the big bang brought the void of space with it and there was no primordial explosion into a nothingness empty void

I even wrote a paper on how impossible to state nothingness as it is a negation of everything and does not lead to any language description, if you get my drift.

From what I have read in your interesting posts and it seems that you are sure the universe is eternal and infinite. But then time can have no meaning as in this type of universe the arrow of time is pushed back to infinity.

There would be no uncaused cause and of course no need for the idea of a creator (please I dont want us to go down that route but just mention it for interest sake)

Time thus would be a man made construct just to measure how we move in relation to something else, or what you think

Alan.


I feel as if I am a small boy holding but a teaspoon of knowledge standing before the Infinity Ocean of all knowledge

John.,

I one of your posts you stated that matter cannot exist without antimatter and that is true. But why is our universe so asymmetrical ,as far as we know it is almost completely made out of matter,

Luckely for us, but where is the antimatter gone?

Alan

I feel as if I am a small boy holding but a teaspoon of knowledge standing before the Infinity Ocean of all knowledge

John and others I would like to post my view on space, time

What Time - Is It?

Time, what is it? Actually, time is just a concept connecting matter, space and motion together. The word Time represents the changing relative positions, directions, and relative velocities of matter within space.

The rate of relative position change is called velocity. There can be no absolute velocity for any single piece of matter; velocity only has meaning when measured against at least one other piece of matter. The same is true for direction and time. There can be no absolute direction for any single piece of matter. There can be no absolute time. It is the change in relative positions, directions, and velocities of matter that we call TIME.

PROOF

Try this simple thought experiment. Imagine if all relative motion stopped even down to the electrons within their orbits. What we call Time also would stop. The hands on the clock of course stop moving at the position they were in when the freeze took place. One can easily see that without the relative motions of matter time has no meaning. This is because fundamentally it is relative motion that we are describing when we use the term Time. This is one simple proof of what Time is. Time does not exist as a separate entity. Time is only a conceptual tool used to relate the complex, changing, positions, directions, and velocities of matter to other pieces of matter in space.


SPACE

Space without matter is dimensionless and cannot be described. Without matter to compare to other matter, distance is meaningless. An example of this is when we measure distance. The devices we use to measure distance all simply compare at least two pieces of matter in some way. We really do not physically measure the empty space in between. If all relative motion stopped a three-axis, coordinate system could easily locate every piece of matter within space. Matter is moving about so a fourth dimension is needed to describe the change in relative positions of any moving objects within space. This fourth dimension is what we have been calling TIME. We have been using this concept of time for so long that it has become part of our thinking. This has blinded many and has caused some to think of time as an entity within itself. It is not. It is merely an expedient way to express (and think) about the very complex relative motions of matter through space. The word Time represents the changing relative positions, directions, and relative velocities of matter within space.




NOW

When someone asks, What is the time? you might think you could be smart and say Now. You would of course be wrong. Even as you were saying the word, relative motions of unimaginable complexity has occurred. Even the hands on the clock moved ever so slightly. The Cesium atomic clock in Boulder Colorado vibrates 9,192,631,770 times each second . You may have realized by Now that Now cannot even exist! No matter how small the increment, some relative motion of matter has occurred somewhere in the Universe.

Now is a nice concept but has no absolute meaning.


THE PAST

If we think about the past, thoughts are conjured up about some mysterious time gone by. The reality is that we are referring to a set of relative locations of all of the pieces of matter in the Universe. Time travel into the past would require that all of the intricate pieces of matter in the Universe be returned to the "older" original relative positions, directions, and velocities that existed at that point. Not even a Barnum & Bailey Circus juggler could reposition that number of pieces. IS the past is a real Humpty Dumpy!


THE FUTURE

The future simply is a reference to the relative positions, directions, and velocities of all the matter in the Universe at some step that has not occurred yet but will. In theory if a giant computer could first know and then calculate where each particle of matter was and its relative directional velocity to all other pieces of matter, the future would be predictable. A backward calculation could also be done to reconstruct a vision of what things were like before. After all, the future is just a description of the relative positions, directions, and velocities of everything at a particular step.










The reason our dialogue has continues for so long is due to the fact that time is unimaginable complex and I thank you for hanging in there Madidus My comment on the same subject on another forum.

Distances are only the relation of space to time and vary with that relation.

We all use the word time just about every day. We talk about how much time we have left for the math period to end or how many hours a week we work or the time remaining till the start of our favourite television programme. Nevertheless, do we really know what time is when put into perspective with the laws that govern the rest of the universe?

We often hear the phrase space and time but some of us dont realize is that the two are inextricably linked, and, more importantly, they are both integral to the world in which we live. In fact, they are the physical building blocks that make up our existence, the habitat in which all things dwell and have dwelt for eternity. We will now begin to examine exactly how the two make up our world and why they are so inseparable, and how time plays a large part in the proper physical functioning of our universe.


Time is what allows us not only to measure the duration of events but also to determine when events in space occurred in relation to other events in space. This requires the establishment of a universal time-scale that can be used to compare the events, the determination of which depends on precise mathematical calculations derived from astronomical observations. Just as events can occur at different points in space at the same point in time, they can also occur at different points in time at the same point in space (how many times have my parents told me that they used to do exactly the same things as I do now, only thirty years ago). This brings us to realize that they must in some way be related.
The fact is that we live in a four-dimensional universe, the fabric of which is given the term space-time. We are familiar with the three dimensions of space (length, breadth and height), and indeed with that of time, except that we never think of time as just being another dimension to our universe, basically because it is difficult, in fact, just about impossible, to imagine a four-dimensional universe. Indeed, it is often difficult to imagine three-dimensional space, especially where high-school math is involved.

We often give points in space a discernible position by giving them three coordinates to establish their distance in all three dimensions relative to other points in space. It is almost like giving somebody the directions to your house by referring to various landmarks that the person may be familiar with. However, in order to establish the exact position of events in space-time, the only difference is that we must specify four coordinates for the event (three for space and one for time). Although the dimension theory is now widely accepted as a definition of time, there are some that continue to oppose it.
From a philosophical viewpoint, time is more bewildering than space. Does it flow through our lives or do we flow through an endless sea of time? But this too is difficult to understand. There have been questions such as how many seconds of time flow in one second, suggesting that the rate of flow of time is taken as relative to something else, a sort of hyper time, which in turn, to flow, would require a hyper-hyper time and so on indefinitely. Do future events occur as the present approaches them, or are they already there in a different time than that in which we live? How is it that we seem to have an internal clock that often wakes us up when the alarm does not ring?

These are questions that are difficult to answer, and bear testament to the fascination that man has had with time ever since the beginning of, welltime. The German philosopher Immanuel Kant said that space and time were phenomenally real (part of the world as described by science) but nominally unreal (not a part of the unknowable world of things in themselves). The burden of time on the shoulders of a man haunts him as it sweeps him closer to his death, and so it is likely that man will continue to try to find out more about this phenomenon, which he has still not quite understood.





So here is a continuation of that complex reality from a different angle.

Time is one of the worlds deepest mysteries. No one can say exactly what it is. Yet, the ability to measure time is what makes our way of life possible. Most human activities involve groups of people acting together in the same place at the same time. People could not do this if they did not all measure time in the same way


We sometimes say Where something is. Even where is meaningless without other pieces of matter to relate the location. Imagine being in a Universe that is empty except for you. Where would not be meaningful without other pieces of matter to reference against. There is no absolute Where.



Age is another word that really means change. The word Age has been used so broadly that it has taken on an independent character. There is no absolute Age. Age should refer to the change in the relative positions, directions, and velocities of the particles that make up the object under discussion.


You have heard that one thing can age faster than another. People, wine, etc. This is just a common example of the perverted use of a concept. What people are really referring to are different "relative" amounts of change. A sharper more disciplined use of such terms should be required for scientific thinking. We have let our words limit our thoughts and our vision, almost to blindness.
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The past, the future, now, and where cannot exist in an independent form, but the do from different subjective relativities

Time represents the changing relative positions, directions, and relative velocities of matter within space

Time is what allows us not only to measure the duration of events but also to determine when events in space occurred in relation to other events in space. This requires the establishment of a universal time-scale that can be used to compare the events, the determination of which depends on precise mathematical calculations derived from astronomical observations. Just as events can occur at different points in space at the same point in time, they can also occur at different points in time at the same point in space (how many times have my parents told me that they used to do exactly the same things as I do now, only thirty years ago). This brings us to realize that they must in some way be related.

And so on adinfinitum!

Alan



I feel as if I am a small boy holding but a teaspoon of knowledge standing before the Infinity Ocean of all knowledge

Nothing is as it seems everything is subjective and relative .

Why is there something and not nothing?? How does time work


Nothing is as it seems to be and all things are subjective realties to the observer. Everything is relative to each person from the viewpoint of the only ultimate reality the First Cause, Ultimate, Divine Mind. There is no absolute time, time moves differently from one object to the next and in one location to the next. For example, time moves slower on massive objects like the Sun or Jupiter and faster on smaller objects like our Earth. It moves even minutely faster in space. This is no longer a theory, but proven fact. Extremely accurate precision atomic clocks on fast moving spacecraft have detected this strange phenomenon and proven Einsteins theory of relativity to be true. Stop all the clocks in the universe and movement will continue unaffected. Stop all movement and the illusion we call time will stop and nothing ever happen again, unless Source again allows movement to begin again

Time is elastic with in one moment in only one direction, namely into future moment. The twin paradox describes what happens. One twin boards a spacecraft traveling close to the speed of light, on a voyage for Alpha Centauri, some four light years from earth. Ten years he returns having aged only one year compared to his now twenty-year-older twin brother. An enigmatic paradox but absolutely true and real. One exciting, but far distant use of this effect is the real possibility of reaching any moment in the future. Given enough speed, one could reach the Olympic Games of the year 2108, in a matter of a few subjective days. Backward times travel to the past, is a fantasy and if this were possible, a person could do the impossible and go back and murder their younger self. There is no universal now! Events are simply there, hanging in space-time Time cannot exist without space and space cannot exist without time. We only conceive of time by the movement of an object through space, so space and time are different realities of the same thing and can only exist where movement is allowed. For example, stop all movement in the universe and you have stopped time, have you not? Therefore, these three things are one spacetimemovement realty. There is simply no universal now and each moment is unique to the observer.

Something instead of nothing?
Why is there something instead of nothing? The interesting conclusion of this ultimate puzzle is that, we can be sure of, it that at least something exists. There is a Universe, we see people, and things, and light, and while we may debate what it means, how it came into being, and how it works, we can be sure that there is at least `something'.

Many physicists search for the most elementary laws of physics, and believe that a law is more likely to be true, when it is simpler, more elementary. Some think that at some moment, humans will understand how the Universe and everything works, and, even more, that we find out why the Universe is necessarily as it is. I cannot believe that, indeed, I believe humans cannot ever give a satisfactory or final answer to this ultimate of all questions. Why is there something instead of nothing?

With nothing, I mean the un-existence of everything. No people, no earth, no milky way, no universe, no laws of nature, no space, no time a total non-existence of everything. A mind-boggling, brain-, brain-numbing and brain- twisting overwhelming concept, terrifying, frightening, too awful to contemplate and impossible think about, without going insane and totally beyond understanding of any human genius.

Making a mathematical model of nothing is actually easy. (Take an empty set, with no operations on it, and nothing else.) Nevertheless, one thing we can be sure of: this nothing is not correct: we do not have nothing, but definite and absolutely do indeed have SOMETHING.

This shows that the simplest model is not always the correct one. The universe is almost infinitely complex and to me this points to the simple logic that it is the creation by an infinite, intelligent power. Nothing is the very most basic of all concepts and if there were nothing, there would be no creator, of course.
Some people may argue that the universe was created in the Big Bang ( but whom and what pressed the button of the big bang in the first place, so to speak?) , and that positive matter and positive energy are actually negated by the simultaneous creation of negative matter and negative energy. However, this doesn't answer the other question, where do matter, energy and laws of physics then come from in the first place?
Does this question have an answer? If something exists because it either was a modification of something or else, Something or Somebody else created it, then what caused that to exist? It seems that our logic is unable to deal with the question; indeed,

I think the question shows there is a limit to our understanding of things by the very best minds of the human race. There are simply mysteries out there that will never ever be solved by mere mortal man. You see the universe has a strange Goldie locks condition about it, i.e., it cannot be too hot, or too cold etc, etc, etc, but it has to be just absolutely correct, precise and right or life would not have come into existence and we would not be around to contemplate, debate or dialogue on this ultimate enigma. We would not exist. Life hangs on and depends on this knife- edge of harmonies conditions that have to be sustained over countless billions of years, for us to have come into existence and continue to exist. Makes one think, does it not

Alan

Any comments I will keep silent for a awhile after posting so much in such a short time



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By Alan McDougall 29/8/2007



I feel as if I am a small boy holding but a teaspoon of knowledge standing before the Infinity Ocean of all knowledge

WOW, You said a mouthful-just teasing, well okay Alan back to your first question regarding Matter dominating our visible Universe. I think I have already answered that question awhile back. But, we are very naive about the relationship between Matter and Antimatter. I will take it a step further not only would Matter not exist without Antimatter but NOTHING AT ALL WOULD EXIST without Antimatter. Why do I say that? Because TIME is divided in two directions, in which we live in the forward time portion of this rotation they are always trying to collapse back to ZERO time but these two dualities in their constant interplay only accelerate rotation around each other and only when the balance becomes assymetric then there is an annihilation. Ah, but you cannot destroy these two directions in time they are indestructible they always reform back into their components and resume the exact two step eternal dance. We have failed in our theories to see that it is the GRAVITON CYCLE that powers our Universe, and because of this continuous motion ENTROPY does not exist in a proactive dual time UNIVERSE. It is a rather short answer but it is the truth.

Okay, I read through your posts again and I will attempt to discuss what I think the answer is to some of your statements/questions.

Antigravity, no problem and at some point we will have full disclosure regarding this technology once the world is safe from terrorists.

God, I think so. I wanted to keep it simple, but it is not. There are multiple scales of motion and frequencies in our Universe. Time is relative to motion, and at higher spectrum energy levels time becomes stretched to the point where it approachs zero while frequencies and motion are extreme. Worlds that exist at this level might not degenerate, and the size of these systems would encompass and approach an infinity compared to the size of our dual time sphere. Our small dual time sphere then becomes a sub particle in this larger multiple scale Universe, just like the quark and antiquark forming mesons. So, beings living at that highest level of frequency and motion would be supreme beings and might live forever and could have engineered subparticle worlds like ours to their own benefit.

In other words, the faster your motion the slower the time. Time really becomes irrelevant at some point when your speed and motion is extreme. Now, I am going to state that time travel violates causality but it is possible. Because our frequencies are paired with extreme entanglement to our signature where we are born literally here on Earth, stretching takes place so in time travel violations would or could destroy the time traveller. However, if you can screen against entanglement which the higher frequency faster motion beings certainly could do you could hop all over the universe no problems with entanglement.

Warp Drive, easy all you have to do is mimic how the graviton antimatter induction takes place at the center of black holes. Faster than light travel, easy because there are no speed limits in Universe and with extreme shielding your relativity becomes separated from the effects of local relativities. Time inside the ship would appear normal but outside of the huge field generators you might be travelling within a fourth dimensional tunnel at the speed of the graviton. John