<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote><font size=2 face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote>[dholeman]: I'm curious why you've settled on this 'cloud' model for charge as opposed to, say, one analogous to that of pushing gravity where the effect of charge might be attributed to (selective?) shadowing effects?<hr height=1 noshade id=quote></BLOCKQUOTE id=quote></font id=quote><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size=2 id=quote>
Like charges repel. My first thought was that protons, for example, were sources of gravitons, which would allow them to repel. But it did not explain repulsion between electrons yet attraction between protons and electrons. Also, gravitons were far too weak a force if extrapolated to the quantum scale. In short, gravitons alone did not explain charge. Even more basically, why should all protons and all electrons be identical? Sameness of properties for each discrete entity is a wave characteristic. So how do we explain that particles also have some wave characteristics?
I try not to guess answers to questions such as these because that is inductive, a process frequently wrong. I was sure that, if MM was a sound model, it would eventually show the right path. Well, MM had already shown a need for both elysons and gravitons to explain all gravitational phenomena. And one of the predictions of the Le Sage-type gravity model in MM is that sufficiently dense matter will start to have gravitational shielding, not just shadowing.
One of the characteristics of shielding is that density becomes a factor. Most matter is so porous that most gravitons fly through without effect, and are "wasted" in that they contribute nothing to gravitational force. But if the body density for a given mass is made greater, fewer gravitons are wasted, so gravitational force is stronger. This effect is too slight to be noticed at ordinary densities. But matter density gets dramatically greater at smaller scales. Eventually, it must become so great that nearly 100% of gravitons become effective in producing force. Such a force would be formidable.
But we already know that elysons are influenced by gravitons, and the elysium becomes denser near large masses. It follows that elysium would become super-dense near particles that can absorb most of the incoming gravitons. The implied pressure and density of elysium near such particles might even be great enough to induce a change of state, like water to ice.
Applying these deductions to the quantum world, we infer that protons might be small enough for high-efficiency graviton absorption. That density need only be high enough to produce a change of state for the surrounding elysium. We further presume that the elysium changes into a spongy state that has high elasticity. Then we would get the basic properties seen for protons. Densities great enough for a second change of state might explain electrons. So the wave properties of quantum particles are caused by their dense elysium atmospheres, which govern most close interactions. Collisions are secondary in importance unless relative speeds are very high.
<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote><font size=2 face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote>In particular, I'm wondering how you can extrapolate properties of the 'elyson cloud' around an electron that would cause the electron to cruise along a copper highway or even, more basically, orbit around a nucleus.<hr height=1 noshade id=quote></BLOCKQUOTE id=quote></font id=quote><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size=2 id=quote>
MM does not yet have a model for the electron. So questions of detail cannot yet be answered. But perhaps, from these generalities, you can see some possibilities. -|Tom|-
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