Elysium

<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by tvanflandern</i>
<br /><blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by DAVID</i>
<br />Doesn’t the wave speed of light vary according to the density of the “Elysium” through which it travels?<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">Yes. Observationally, that is known as the "Shapiro effect", and shows up most easily when bouncing radar signals off other planets. -|Tom|-
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Good, because that’s what my theory says too.

Where can I find one of your papers about this?

<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by DAVID</i>
<br />Where can I find one of your papers about this?<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">The slowing of electromagnetic signals in a gravitational potential field is by the factor sqrt[1-2 GM/(r c^2)], and is derived in many textbooks on GR. I get slowing, bending, and redshift all as a refraction effect in elysium as elysium density increases linearly with inverse distance from a source mass. This idea is set into a cosmological contect in <i>Dark Matter...</i>, and developed in more detail in "21st century gravity" (2003 June 15 issue of the Meta Research Bulletin). -|Tom|-

I am piping in late on the rubbing magnets conversation. Wouldn't energy conservation predict heating at least equal to the energy supplied to move the magnets. The magnets do not influence matter and energy until they are moved. You must turn the generator to make electrons flow. But imagine the reality of the field lines themselves and what if any ftl interaction are occuring and what part elysium must play in these interactions. We describe magnitism magnificently well, we observe the reason we think it occurs, but it is fascinating that like gravity, magnetism is not as understood as we might expect.

Might the alignment of magnetic moments allow fewer CG's to pass throught the matter due to elyium interactions? Might this shielding improve the magnet's ability to influence matter withing the gravitational shielding of Earth (or other body)? Would identical magnets behave differently in space than here on the surface of Earth? Is there any satisfying data to support any of this? MV

sqrt[1-2 GM/(r c^2)] from a post above-what are the final units when the math is done using this equation?

<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Jim</i>
<br />sqrt[1-2 GM/(r c^2)] from a post above-what are the final units when the math is done using this equation?<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">There are three fundamental dimensions in physics: length (L), time (T), and mass (M). In the equation, G has units of L^3/(M T^2); M has units of M; r has units of L; and c has units of L/T. So when all units in the equation are combined, they cancel, and the equation produces a dimensionless quantity: the factor by which clocks slow down in a gravitational potential. Because GM/r is usually small compared with c^2, this factor is usually near, but slightly less than, unity.

P.S. I erred before in saying this was the factor for the slowing of c. It is actually the factor for the slowing of clocks. The speed of light in a gravitational field is reduced by the square of this factor; i.e., the same equation without the "sqrt". -|Tom|-

How can you tell the difference between the speed of light slowing and clocks slowing? They seem the same to me so in a gravity field redshift is the combined total stretching of photons. That puts all the effects of gravity in one box rather than two. Or is there some way to change the constant speed of light not explained yet?