What Really Exists Outside The Universe

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<br />"Why do you impose a shape on the universe?"
If you started from no coherance and pushed from the edges, thats the shape you would get.
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The general stance on this board seems to be that the universe is infinite, which would render it quite difficult to give it any shape at all. Of course, if the universe is finite then a shape for the universe follows almost trivially (i.e. one could measure cross sections).

Frankly, I would be seriously disappointed if the universe turned out to be finite, but then again, the cosmos does not exist to merely please us...
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I do not claim the Universe is finite, only that there is a system larger than galaxy clusters. What we see and call our Universe does have a shape. Like our solar system, galaxies, galaxy clusters...etc, all have shape. Is there more beyond our "universe" or local system. Maybe, but where we are has a shape. Were there other splits and closed systems that can be wrongly described as Universes or a Multiverse....One does not and can't know such with certainty, until our system's geometry and dynamics is defined. At this point we can look for outside influences.

One thing that I stress is that the homogenious neutrally charged energy is infinate, as space itself can have no boundary. But, all of this space may or may not have opposite charges that would bring forth the four forces and Plurality. I do believe our "Universe" is closed and may be the only one. It is a horn shaped funnel. But there may be many more as well, perhaps infinately more at various stages of development. But, we are not even close to empirically showing this....and we may never be....but we have to keep looking.

<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by brantc</i>
<br />"Why do you impose a shape on the universe?"
If you started from no coherance and pushed from the edges, thats the shape you would get.
Why do you impose mathmatics on the universe?
For it is only a descriptor of discoveries.

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This is one of a hundred reasons:
www.spaceandmotion.com/Cosmology.htm

Which states that the Wave Structure of Matter (WSM) explains
Finite Spherical Universe within Infinite Space. But I believe this "infinite space" to actually be other finite spherical universes that are interacting at the triple point, then creating new spherical universes.

I came up with my theory around the winter of 1999-2000 I even went to the copyright office I said that the universe was in a solar system of universes and there were others proposing much in the order that the universe explodes and implodes and that there are universes that follow this order. I even went on to say that these solar systems comprise galaxies of univereses. There are so many people out there on the planet thinking that they were the first but really god made it all so he is we are just curious. sincerely Ryan<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by skywalcore</i>
<br />Imagine a force that acts in a perfect way. A way that can allow a concept as enormous as infinite existance for matter and anti-matter. It is proven that our universe expands in all directions and resembles a spherical shape. What isn't proven, but what I believe, is that there are similar spherical shaped universes around our universe. All simulatenously expanding at the same rate. The reason is that it creates a chain effect which can cause an infinite expansion and deflation process, which is this:

Picture a bowl of marbles. The spheres arrange themselves in such a way that there is one point which holds SIGNIFICANT importance. I call it, the TRIPLE POINT. Each of the spheres in your marble bowl represents a single universe. Now in reality these marble spheres exist infinitly in numbers and are not limited to some sort of cosmic bowl. In the center of each marble is a black spot. At some point in time this black spot represents all the matter compressed within that universe. This compressed matter is so unstable it explodes [The Big Bang]. Now the black spot in the center of the clear marble grows. [It grows equally at the same rate as in each other marble and at the exact same time. This is the cycle of the universes' existance. Once the black spot grows to the boundary of the marble you now have a bowl filled with black marbles. Now the gravity is strongest at the TRIPLE POINT. Place three marbles together on your hand and see the small hole between them. The expanding force of those three marbles [caused by the expanding Big Bang] will collect all force and gravity within the small hole between those three marbles. It acts as a gravity powered vacuum. In effect, a new black dot is created. It is the product of the force caused by the maximumly expanded three marbles, which all happens at the Triple Point. When you take into account the 3-Dimensions of this "bowl of marbles", the mass of an entire universe is equally distributed among the triple points surrounding it. Once again, each triple point [the condensed unstable matter] explodes into another Big Bang.

This is what I propose as a solution to how our immediate universe will stop expanding and be able to exist once more. It is recycled with the universes, for lack of a better term, surrounding it. Therefore, another big bang scenario is created on a constant basis in an infinite scale.

-Luke Stanton Smith
skywalcore@hotmail.com
I came up with this theory on 1/10/04.
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ryan Henningsgaard

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ryan,

Please don't try to promote your business here.

LB