New evidence that Micro black holes are everywhere

This is a nice start. The best way to procede from here, IMO, is to start talking about a specific point and see where it takes us. As time goes on the comparisons that I have asked for will "happen". And that in turn will lead to more interesting discussions.

I will need to study both of your versions of Tom's list and your reactions to the items in it. Some of my initial responses are going to be of the "please explain in more detail" sort. We need to be on the lookout for miscommunication, and make sure that when we use a word or talk about a concept, we are both using the same definition. (For example, it would be useful to know your definition of "black hole". To me, "black hole" means a finite mass with a radius, and therefore volume, of zero.)


I'll pick the first point to begin this process soon.

Regards,
LB

Thank you Larry for your invitation.
I would start with three definitions:

HIGGS PARTICLES, (Dark Energy) are supposed to have a specific FORM able to change shape by collision and to be the origin of all other particles (the God particle).
Thus Fermions and Photons/Gluons/Neutrinos have also real rigid different forms.
bigbang-entanglement.blogspot.com/2007/01/introduction.html
Higgs particles are supposed to oscillate with a Universal defined constant frequency along a Three-Dimensional shaped network of tetrahedral shaped lattices with the Planck length (and variable length around black holes) .
All Higgs particles oscillate with the same cycle through the universe but with variable speed dependent of the vacuum lattice length.
The lattice length is forced to vary in the neighborhood of black holes due to the absorption of the vacuum lattice including the Higgs particles around black holes, leading to light path curvation.
1.bp.blogspot.com/_ArDoWzECXSo/R4XwKekQ_.../FOTON+TRAJECT+1.jpg


FERMIONS are form-changed Higgs particles supposed to have a real propeller shape and are able to become a double spin state by Higgs scattering by oscillations.
These Higgs oscillations are coming in from directions according to the so called oscillating vacuum lattice, which is tetrahedral in its basic form.
The Higgs scattering process with Fermions produce Photons (called Gluons on short- Quark related-range) of different Form (5 types: Gravitons, two magnetic and two electric (monopole) Photon/Gluons).
Fermions have the ability to merge or click on with the non-propeller shaped Photon/Gluons, to produce Quarks.
Fermions are supposed to spin outside the vacuum lattice but are energized and driven to spin, by the continuous scattering with the Higgs particles. Each collision with a Fermion does change one real Higgs into a Higgs particle with a particular photon quality depending on the angle of scattering attack of the Higgs to the Fermion. Thus the spin and "eigen energy" of the Fermion is supposed to come from the scattering of the Higgs field.
bigbang-entanglement.blogspot.com/2008/1...-stringy-shaped.html

(Micro) BLACK HOLES. ( Dark Matter)
The Black hole is supposed to be a particle graveyard with a real particle nucleus containing real particles, which are densely packed together by the Higgs vacuum scattering pressure from outside.
The black hole is not able to emit graviton or other photonic information outside the horizon, because the Higgs vacuum lattice being the transport medium for Photons, is absorbed by the black hole nucleus itself.
This could be called a constant Casimir pressure on the black hole nucleus.
As a result, the Black hole has a Light horizon with a radius depending on the number of nuclear Higgs particles.
The absence of graviton emission has a strange consequence:
BLACK HOLES HAVE NO MASS.
Nothing is supposed to spin by Higgs scattering inside the Black hole nucleus.
Conclusion: Only real spinning Fermions can have mass, by emitting gravity photon information. As a consequence, Gravity is the scattering influence of TWO particles: the scattering pushing influence of Gravitons on Fermions and also the counter balancing pressure of the Higgs vacuum system. (for alternative adapted Feynman diagrams see:
3.bp.blogspot.com/_ArDoWzECXSo/R2A0GNUIc...n+graviton+2a.%20jpg
Micro black holes are supposed to act as Ball lightning, Comet nuclei, Sunspots, Herbig Haro objects.
It is assumed that due to the strong curvature of the micro Black hole horizon pair production and even Quark production takes place, even able to produce complete atoms like Hydroxyl found around Comet nuclei.
migratingblackholes.blogspot.com/2009/03...on-of-new-micro.html

Leo Vuyk.

<b>[Leo] "Dear Larry, ... I hope that the layout will be the same as in my word document."</b>

Leo,

Take a look at your post above with time stamp 12 Mar 2009 : 02:14:31

I edited the section with your "yes" responses (since it is short). Is this the kind of formating that you hoped to achieve?

Thank you Larry,

I checked the links and the layout seems to me good enough.

Leo,

Hmmm.

You say black holes have no mass, I say that mass is the only thing black holes have. I'm pretty sure that Modern Science agrees with me on this one. Even though I think Modern Science has some problem areas, it is not wrong about everything.

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Remember, the reason for you and I having this discussion is for <u>you to learn enough</u> about our ideas to be able to write knowledgeable comparisons (either favorable or unfavorable) between your ideas and our ideas.

Why do I say that the learning burden and the comparing burden is on you? If I went to your Website and started talking about my ideas, the burden would be on me to learn enough about your ideas to be able to show you where my ideas were better than yours. If I could. (It's really just that simple - I go to you, the burden is on me; you come to us, the burden is on you.)

Most people would not tolerate my presence on their Website if I did not do this.

You might be different, but you would also probably ignore me once you realized I was just there to freeload. If I and others like me started making frequent, large posts that never talked about things related to your ideas, you would likely become irritated with us. You might ask us, politely or not, to start making a contribution to your efforts. You might even stop tolerating us at some point, and delete all of our past postings.

It would not be a completely unreasonable thing for you to do.

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So, back to our discussion. It looks like we have fairly different opinions about what a black hole is, so that might be a good place to start our discussion. Or maybe not so good. Without a foundation to build on we are likely to continue to run into definition problems as our discussion evolves, so I think it is better to start with something more basic.

Have you finished reading Chapter One of Tom's book? It looks like you have finished the Introduction, and based on your responses to some of the items in Tom's list of discussion points, I imagine that you have some questions. Chapter One will almost certainly answer some of them, and raise others.

Why don't we start with those questions?

Regards,
LB

Larry mmmm,

I have long thought about yourpsoposal.
However I would like to give my double LeSage gravity a second chance for your attention by a new interesting example how you are able to shed light on things.

DOUBLE Le Sage gravity solves the Wang and Yang eclipse anomalies.

The Wang and Yang eclipse gravity anomalies (Mohe 1997 and Lusaka 2001) can be explained by the introduction of a dual or double Le Sage gravity system.
Such a system is supposed to be based on the pressure differences between the impulse of Higgs and Graviton scattering on Fermions.
The concentrated Higgs- Graviton (vector) bundles have two types : A and B. They seem to introduce a lighthouse effect around the Sun.
Bundles with type A seem to be more concentrated and related to the equatorial plane of the Sun. Type A bundles seem to loose their influence on Earth if the inclination of the Sun with the line of sight is increasing. It is proposed that type A gravity is originated by the rotation of the Sun (drag effect)
Gravity bundles with type B (only Higgs without graviton influence) seem to be more widely beaming without much variation related to inclination with the line of sight.
It is proposed that type B gravity is originated by the dark matter content of Sunspots. ( in the form of micro black holes)
migratingblackholes.blogspot.com/

Leo Vuyk.
See for eclipse gravity variations:
Maurice Allais homepage:
www.allais.info/priorartdocs/angs.htm