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Hi Jim, I think the first thing Ive got to say is, that I didnt pluck this speed of gravity out of thin air. I worked it out from the electromagnetic/gravitational couple. The working I put up here in the thread on entropy.

It was only when I plugged in the value to the lorentzian that I twigged the value of c^2 / b^2 was equal to h. The next novelty was that of expanding this lorentzian by the binomial theorem gave a gravitational energy that was equal to the particles electromagnetic frequency.

Next novelty was working out what I call a particles complimentary which for the electron comes out as the theoretical mass of the electron neutrino. The mass energy left over when a neutron decays into a proton, a positron and a neutrino is equal to the reciprocal of h times the rest mass of a photon.

It all begins to look pretty logical. Of course that doesnt mean that thats how the cosmos works.

Things to do. First off, in our lorentzian, meaning this notice boards, theres nothing special about the speed of light, its not a limit. So lets say that Im toddling along at twice the speed of light. With my estimate of the speed of light thats 2h. Now in a newtonian universe we can accelerate up to 3h but we cant do that where the speed of gravity is not infinite.

The reason is that theres a hidden exponential in the lorentzian. An exponential that pays out energy interest in units of h.

So, weve got a compton wavelength electron which has an angular momentum of h at its edge and an angular velocity of c. Is it solid? It simply cannot be. That would mean that its angular momentum would still have to equal h at very very small radii. In effect we would have a mini black hole.

So lets make our electron a bec, it looks like an extremely deep impact crater, with a central spike that has a radius of the Swartzchild limit. The walls of this thing are so nearly vertical that we simply cannot measure the angle. Only at the tops and bottoms is there a curve. Look at the profile of this crater sideways on. It would have to be thousands of light years deep, in order for us to put gravitational space and electromagnetic space in one to one correspondence.

However, that spike is actually a cosine wave, with waves becoming exponentially shorter. That allows us to make the depth of the crater much more shallow. When an electron emits or absorbs a photon it can pull in, or out, its arms like an ice skater. This alters the Swatzchild radius by a tiny amount but that lets out some of the gravitational mass energy. As I say, for this speed of gravity there is a hidden gravitational mass of slightly more than a tonne. Something to look at is how that cosine wave propagates. At x equals one, which for now well assume is the compton wavelength radius of the electron, the cosine wave moves outwards very fast but it also moves inwards very slowly. That has to mean something but I dont know what.

Ill leave it there for now, I realise that I havent talked about your real events as yet. The reason is that the very term raises some philosophical problems. Can I talk about existing events? Does Einsteins events mean anything when we are talking about ftl gravity? You might think that this is merely being glib but I wouldnt want to read every paper on just this point. It has to take up at least a floor of the Bodleian.

CERN is going for the big test on Wednesday. They were going to do a test run but because they have to super cool the pipe they decided, in their wisdom, to just go for it in one. Now there is a court case being mounted by German and Austrian scientists to stop it but their credentials are being rubbished. Actually a rather brave thing to do, as their jobs are probably on the line over it.

If we smash soft gamma rays into each other, sometimes we get the creation of a electron/positron pair. I argue that that happens when the gravitational cores hit each other. Gold atoms smacking into each other is a whole new ball game, excuse the pun. The hidden gravitational mass of a proton is getting on for two thousand tonnes. When to atoms hit the chances are that most of these tiny cores will miss each other but there are a lot of them and they are packed close, so at least one hit will happen.

No way are we going to release the whole of that two thousand tonnes. To the cores hitting at light speed is just a gentle tap. If h of the gravitational mass is released we should get a proton/antiproton pair. That should explode. I think thats being a little optimistic, we should get a sizeable multiple of h released.

Anyway, if the universe ends on Wednesday, Ill put up a post as most people in America will still be in bed and might miss it. On Tuesday Im off to the pub to get drunk. I did try to get the manager to lower the beer prices but he said hed think about it on Thursday.

Sloat, Do you think energy and force are related or interchangable? In some of your posts you seem to use both as if they were just different words for the same detail. The CERN stuff you posted is a good example of force and energy being being the same(IMO that is).

Hi Jim, again this is one thats fraught with philosophical difficulties, and I suppose the answer has to be that its too soon to say much. We can talk about force in terms of acceleration or change in momentum. When two gamma ray photons smack into each other we have negative acceleration. Work is done and an electron/positron pair is built. But we can have the two smack into each other without the two very tiny gravitational spikes hitting.

When we write hf = 1/2mc^2 + 1/2mc^2 were talking about potential energy and kinetic energy being equal. Implicit within that is the idea of a field. We have, as it were, introduced a hill. When we talk about a gravitational hill we find that the hill updates itself instantaneously. Its a Newtonian hill, or we can have an Einsteinian hill, where theres no force but a pure abstraction, the famous space-time curvature.

This is a major problem, we assume a field of some sort then craftily hide it under the carpet. So lets bite the bullet and explicitly hide most of the gravitational energy inside our bec spike. If the speed of light is the same as the speed of gravity we would have an energy curve thats a cosine. It spins at a constant velocity. However, if we say that theres a hidden exponential in the Lorentzian, then the thing becomes much more dynamic.

If we had two intelligent gravitons chatting about their universe, they would see the core spikes of particles as little spheres or toroids. These things would move. One graviton might hyothosize about some near zero form of energy at a huge distance/radius from the grav particles he knows about. The other graviton might grant him that but point out that such a zero point field would have to almost stop time, in order to be able to respond to changes in gravitational energy density.

Back to our sub light speed universe. The gravitational energy of the vacuum is constantly changing as the electron, any particle, tries to balance its potential and kinetic energy. Because the em part of it is so slow, it sometimes has to receive, or pay back, some multiples of h energy to get back in synch with the its gravitational mass.

This still doesnt explain motion but its at least interesting to play about with.

Sloat, Gravity is a force and cannot be understood in energy terms. Making better statements to better hide stuff under the rug is just more of the sameol sameol. It might make much sense to view gravity as a field but its a lot better than searching for a gravitron that moves at 2x10E20 times the speed of light. The real(as opposed to modeled) action is photon/proton. Force is measured in time. As for acceleration-its change in time don't you think? A proton absorbs a photon over some period of time depending on the force. I guess the force is a matter of totals of forces that can exist at some point at some time.

Hi Jim, Gravity fields are one thing while graviton motion is something else all together. I know where gravitons come from and as I have stated all along you have to complete a circuit to create motion. ESA has stated that the gravitomagnetic force is a trillion times stronger then what Einstein predicted. Right now we assume that nothing can go faster than light, but if that is the case how does the 120,000 light year distance across our galaxy all move together in a complete balanced motion within a toroid. Dark matter and any force at a distance is non-sense becaues you have to complete a circuit to turn on the power to operate a universe. So, gravitons circulate towards the positive core which is made out of antimatter. Antimatter induction is taking place in black holes creating a very large antimatter magnetic field around our galaxy. Probably the gravitons enter near the edge of the circulation where this field would be at its weakest point. John