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16 years 9 months ago #19857
by Tommy
Replied by Tommy on topic Reply from Thomas Mandel
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But if you know what I mean,
(JMB)Unhappily not.
Ya know, I set out almost forty years ago to learn "science" which I thought was the search for knowledge
and truth. But what I found out since then, was that scientists are not interested in truth and the knowledge they, and they means virtually everyone not just scientists, have is their knowledge and if one takes it alll into consideration all of it is BUll-**** (BUSH) The words are only symbols, and so is the mathematics, and the truth, not constrained by these symbols, is cery different. Like Goethe said, "all theory is grey and the golden tree of life is green." Fortunately, I have a short memory and I will forget the deep knowledge I read about leaving me with my own knowledge which I understand. So based on my experiences, the universe is infinite, and what is happening is also infinite, and what I believe is happening is what is happening at least to me. We create our own universe at every now instant so in my universe everyting is created now, because, as schroedinger said, now has always been now. The past does not exist and never did. There is something inside all of this that connects everything, A potentially infinite energy that is a single entity in which there is no here or there, or for that matter, before and after. So while it all is infinite, everyone else can also create his or her own universe too. And it is that what we are seeing, this or that's persons version of what their universe is or isn't.
But if you know what I mean,
(JMB)Unhappily not.
Ya know, I set out almost forty years ago to learn "science" which I thought was the search for knowledge
and truth. But what I found out since then, was that scientists are not interested in truth and the knowledge they, and they means virtually everyone not just scientists, have is their knowledge and if one takes it alll into consideration all of it is BUll-**** (BUSH) The words are only symbols, and so is the mathematics, and the truth, not constrained by these symbols, is cery different. Like Goethe said, "all theory is grey and the golden tree of life is green." Fortunately, I have a short memory and I will forget the deep knowledge I read about leaving me with my own knowledge which I understand. So based on my experiences, the universe is infinite, and what is happening is also infinite, and what I believe is happening is what is happening at least to me. We create our own universe at every now instant so in my universe everyting is created now, because, as schroedinger said, now has always been now. The past does not exist and never did. There is something inside all of this that connects everything, A potentially infinite energy that is a single entity in which there is no here or there, or for that matter, before and after. So while it all is infinite, everyone else can also create his or her own universe too. And it is that what we are seeing, this or that's persons version of what their universe is or isn't.
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16 years 9 months ago #20665
by JMB
Replied by JMB on topic Reply from Jacques Moret-Bailly
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Tommy</i>
<br /> I set out almost forty years ago to learn "science" which I thought was the search for knowledge and truth.
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Yes, it is. We need to build a system coherent, understandable by others. This is very difficult and a lot of people fall into traps such as religion because we want to explain what we are, at a time, unable to explain. Admitting that we are unable to explain many observations, unable to extrapolate too much what we know, admitting that it is good that other people detect our errors, is, for me, the foundation of thought and knowledge.
<br /> I set out almost forty years ago to learn "science" which I thought was the search for knowledge and truth.
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Yes, it is. We need to build a system coherent, understandable by others. This is very difficult and a lot of people fall into traps such as religion because we want to explain what we are, at a time, unable to explain. Admitting that we are unable to explain many observations, unable to extrapolate too much what we know, admitting that it is good that other people detect our errors, is, for me, the foundation of thought and knowledge.
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16 years 9 months ago #20876
by JMB
Replied by JMB on topic Reply from Jacques Moret-Bailly
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Tommy</i>
<br /><blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">And if the ZPE does have a wavelength, and therefore is physical
(JMB) An energy is a scalar, it cannot have a wavelength.
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SO why do they tell me that the casimir experiment wrks because
the gap is smaller that the wavelength? Interesting, scalar is what Maxwell called his ether, and which was removed from the equations by Heaviside because it was too "Mystical."
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You confuse field and energy. The density of energy is proportional to the SQUARE of the field radiated by all, known and unknown sources. Therefore there is no simple correlation between the field radiated by a source and the radiated energy.
Casimir's experiment results from the pressure of radiation of the zero point field. For the direction of the electric field which produce a pressure of radiation, the plates used by Casimir work as a wave guide, so that, if the wavelength is too large, the field decreases exponentially from the rims of the plates.
<br /><blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">And if the ZPE does have a wavelength, and therefore is physical
(JMB) An energy is a scalar, it cannot have a wavelength.
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SO why do they tell me that the casimir experiment wrks because
the gap is smaller that the wavelength? Interesting, scalar is what Maxwell called his ether, and which was removed from the equations by Heaviside because it was too "Mystical."
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You confuse field and energy. The density of energy is proportional to the SQUARE of the field radiated by all, known and unknown sources. Therefore there is no simple correlation between the field radiated by a source and the radiated energy.
Casimir's experiment results from the pressure of radiation of the zero point field. For the direction of the electric field which produce a pressure of radiation, the plates used by Casimir work as a wave guide, so that, if the wavelength is too large, the field decreases exponentially from the rims of the plates.
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16 years 9 months ago #20532
by Tommy
Replied by Tommy on topic Reply from Thomas Mandel
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">We need to build a system coherent, understandable by others. This is very difficult and a lot of people fall into traps such as religion because we want to explain what we are, at a time, unable to explain.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">
And isn't it here that the "BIG" problem emerges? Certainly everyone has the right to understand reality as he or she pleases. But when this understanding is forced on others, what happens? Instead of admitting that one does not understand, one steals or is forced to accept the vision of another, and in doing so creates a falsehood. The falsehood doesn't fit and the heart knows this. The fault then is not accepted by porojected on others. particularily those who do not believe the same. I am familair with religion and I can see what their problem is - the concept of god. By using a word to describe the concept, the concept, according to conceptual principles, become a separate thing. Most Eastern philosophy is aware of this "Maya" and Zen in particular likes to slap one in the face as long as one thinks about it. My study of the universe has it that the ground of everything is a nearly infinite single entity sustaining all that exists instantaneously. And as long as we don't think about it, there is no difference between me and this whateveryouwanttocallit, between you and me. And as soon as you think about it, as soon as you try to explain it to others, the entire construction collaspes into a pile of BUSH. I have come to the conclusion that the most hignly advanced human race were the North American Indians.
And isn't it here that the "BIG" problem emerges? Certainly everyone has the right to understand reality as he or she pleases. But when this understanding is forced on others, what happens? Instead of admitting that one does not understand, one steals or is forced to accept the vision of another, and in doing so creates a falsehood. The falsehood doesn't fit and the heart knows this. The fault then is not accepted by porojected on others. particularily those who do not believe the same. I am familair with religion and I can see what their problem is - the concept of god. By using a word to describe the concept, the concept, according to conceptual principles, become a separate thing. Most Eastern philosophy is aware of this "Maya" and Zen in particular likes to slap one in the face as long as one thinks about it. My study of the universe has it that the ground of everything is a nearly infinite single entity sustaining all that exists instantaneously. And as long as we don't think about it, there is no difference between me and this whateveryouwanttocallit, between you and me. And as soon as you think about it, as soon as you try to explain it to others, the entire construction collaspes into a pile of BUSH. I have come to the conclusion that the most hignly advanced human race were the North American Indians.
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16 years 9 months ago #19859
by JMB
Replied by JMB on topic Reply from Jacques Moret-Bailly
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Tommy</i>
<br />JMB writes:
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Absolute energy may be obtained by its weight : E=mc2.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">
You like to talk to me using mathematics, but mathematics is only a symbol system. For example, you are telling me that E, the symbol for energy, must have a mass.
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It is demonstrated by nuclear power.
I think that all particles, in particular the neutrinos, have a mass at rest. Photon and graviton are not needed by serious theories.
<br />JMB writes:
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Absolute energy may be obtained by its weight : E=mc2.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">
You like to talk to me using mathematics, but mathematics is only a symbol system. For example, you are telling me that E, the symbol for energy, must have a mass.
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It is demonstrated by nuclear power.
I think that all particles, in particular the neutrinos, have a mass at rest. Photon and graviton are not needed by serious theories.
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16 years 9 months ago #13559
by Tommy
Replied by Tommy on topic Reply from Thomas Mandel
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Casimir's experiment results from the pressure of radiation of the zero point field. For the direction of the electric field which produce a pressure of radiation, the plates used by Casimir work as a wave guide, so that, if the wavelength is too large, the field decreases exponentially from the rims of the plates.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">
I was a radar tech when I was in the Navy. It took me 30yrs to understand how radiation could travel down a square pipe and not be shorted out. I can see how the mathematics would have explaed it right away. If designed correctly, the sides of the tube are placed where the wave length is at the zero point. I think. I still haven't figured out how this electrical wave is pushed outward from the antenna into space. Or how how when riding a bike we don't fall down
I was a radar tech when I was in the Navy. It took me 30yrs to understand how radiation could travel down a square pipe and not be shorted out. I can see how the mathematics would have explaed it right away. If designed correctly, the sides of the tube are placed where the wave length is at the zero point. I think. I still haven't figured out how this electrical wave is pushed outward from the antenna into space. Or how how when riding a bike we don't fall down
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