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10 years 2 months ago #23263
by rderosa
Replied by rderosa on topic Reply from Richard DeRosa
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by pareidoliac</i>
<br />We are hard and soft wired to look for scapegoats when dissonance occurs.
<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">Excellent!
rd
<br />We are hard and soft wired to look for scapegoats when dissonance occurs.
<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">Excellent!
rd
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10 years 2 months ago #22601
by rderosa
Replied by rderosa on topic Reply from Richard DeRosa
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Larry Burford</i>
<br />COULD BE
COULD BE
COULD BE
Or, per marsevidence01, it could be actual real-time aliens. Caught in the act, so to speak.
How do we know?
I promise you that one girl's personal opinion is *not* going to convince anyone else. Some back up is needed. More data, please.
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Yes
Yes
Yes
Doubtful
We don't.
I certainly agree with your last point, and you are right to keep that front and center. Every once in awhile though, I think it's worth a person saying what they really think. "Politeness" does NOT translate to "dissonance."
rd
<br />COULD BE
COULD BE
COULD BE
Or, per marsevidence01, it could be actual real-time aliens. Caught in the act, so to speak.
How do we know?
I promise you that one girl's personal opinion is *not* going to convince anyone else. Some back up is needed. More data, please.
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Yes
Yes
Yes
Doubtful
We don't.
I certainly agree with your last point, and you are right to keep that front and center. Every once in awhile though, I think it's worth a person saying what they really think. "Politeness" does NOT translate to "dissonance."
rd
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10 years 2 months ago #22531
by pareidoliac
Replied by pareidoliac on topic Reply from fred ressler
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by rderosa</i>
<br />Wow, check out the guy on the far right. He appears to be an observer to the scene:
beyondpareidolia.shutterfly.com/1154#1087
He's in full profile, with prominent upturned mustache, long pointed beard and substantial schnoz. He's standing with his hands clasped behind his back, stomach protruding. He's just standing there trying to make sense of what he's seeing, in a scholarly sort of way. He has scruffy unkempt hair typical of an older tenured Professor.
I had a boss like him once. His resume was one paragraph that was 3 pages long (LOL). Me and my group interviewed him to be our manager. When you asked him a question, he talked for 15 minutes, never really answering the question. At one point I had to get a little curt with him and reign him back in: So what was the answer? He walked around like that, with hands clasped behind his back.
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I think the guy you're talking about i call the beast. When i took this shot i just remember seeing beauty. i like the way the couples look as if painted by the same artist. Each frame has a unique Gestalt.
<br />Wow, check out the guy on the far right. He appears to be an observer to the scene:
beyondpareidolia.shutterfly.com/1154#1087
He's in full profile, with prominent upturned mustache, long pointed beard and substantial schnoz. He's standing with his hands clasped behind his back, stomach protruding. He's just standing there trying to make sense of what he's seeing, in a scholarly sort of way. He has scruffy unkempt hair typical of an older tenured Professor.
I had a boss like him once. His resume was one paragraph that was 3 pages long (LOL). Me and my group interviewed him to be our manager. When you asked him a question, he talked for 15 minutes, never really answering the question. At one point I had to get a little curt with him and reign him back in: So what was the answer? He walked around like that, with hands clasped behind his back.
rd
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I think the guy you're talking about i call the beast. When i took this shot i just remember seeing beauty. i like the way the couples look as if painted by the same artist. Each frame has a unique Gestalt.
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10 years 2 months ago #22602
by rderosa
Replied by rderosa on topic Reply from Richard DeRosa
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Larry Burford</i>
<br /> Some back up is needed. More data, please.
<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">Larry, the best method I've seen proposed here on these boards was by Greg Orme. He advocated attempting to prove the natural processes (as presented by Nasa/Jpl scientists) <b>can't be correct based on something in the image. </b>
Each image strip comes with a detailed description of what the capturing scientists think it is. It is incumbent on the AOH advocate to prove <b>that couldn't be so, and to give their reasons.</b>
While it would be nice if the pareidolists could also come up with a way to distinguish "artificial" from "natural" it has proven to be elusive.
We thought we might have something at one point in time, by counting features, but on later reflection that doesn't seem to be a viable solution. "Morty The Snowman" demonstrated that something can be very simple in features and still artificial.
So, the ball is in the Malcolms/Trinkets/Zip Monsters court to prove their case for artificiality.
Meanwhile, the pareidolists take a different path of showing as much about the subject as possible, with reasons why the Mars images <b>may all be pareidolia, although no one can be 100% positive.</b>
It <b>could in fact all be artificial.</b> But I doubt it.
rd
<br /> Some back up is needed. More data, please.
<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">Larry, the best method I've seen proposed here on these boards was by Greg Orme. He advocated attempting to prove the natural processes (as presented by Nasa/Jpl scientists) <b>can't be correct based on something in the image. </b>
Each image strip comes with a detailed description of what the capturing scientists think it is. It is incumbent on the AOH advocate to prove <b>that couldn't be so, and to give their reasons.</b>
While it would be nice if the pareidolists could also come up with a way to distinguish "artificial" from "natural" it has proven to be elusive.
We thought we might have something at one point in time, by counting features, but on later reflection that doesn't seem to be a viable solution. "Morty The Snowman" demonstrated that something can be very simple in features and still artificial.
So, the ball is in the Malcolms/Trinkets/Zip Monsters court to prove their case for artificiality.
Meanwhile, the pareidolists take a different path of showing as much about the subject as possible, with reasons why the Mars images <b>may all be pareidolia, although no one can be 100% positive.</b>
It <b>could in fact all be artificial.</b> But I doubt it.
rd
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10 years 2 months ago #22497
by rderosa
Replied by rderosa on topic Reply from Richard DeRosa
I've also always attempted to produce "perspective".
Here's an interesting point. The "new" paper present at STAIF this May called:
<b>Analysis of the Mars Global Surveyor and Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter Images of the Syria Planum Profile Face on Planet Mars</b>: [J.P. Levasseur, George J. Haas, William R. Saunders, Dr. Horace Crater.]
<b>Does not contain ONE single HiRise image to bolster their case at high resolution.</b> The entire report is just a re-hash of the same old arguments made for the Nefertiti and Skullface "artifacts" <b>using low-res MOC images.</b>
If that doesn't speak volumes, I don't know what would.
rd
Here's an interesting point. The "new" paper present at STAIF this May called:
<b>Analysis of the Mars Global Surveyor and Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter Images of the Syria Planum Profile Face on Planet Mars</b>: [J.P. Levasseur, George J. Haas, William R. Saunders, Dr. Horace Crater.]
<b>Does not contain ONE single HiRise image to bolster their case at high resolution.</b> The entire report is just a re-hash of the same old arguments made for the Nefertiti and Skullface "artifacts" <b>using low-res MOC images.</b>
If that doesn't speak volumes, I don't know what would.
rd
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10 years 2 months ago #22603
by pareidoliac
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Have these martians created anything else besides art work or imitations of pareidolia? If they haven't it seems very unlikely that the only signs they left are pareiddolic looking art.
beyondpareidolia.shutterfly.com/1460
beyondpareidolia.shutterfly.com/1148
Notice in both photographs how the similar looking nipples are placed perfectly at the end of the breast. Let's see a martian do that.
rd- check out and see if you can see Ginger Baker on your left as you look at beyondpareidolia.shutterfly.com/1148 .
beyondpareidolia.shutterfly.com/1460
beyondpareidolia.shutterfly.com/1148
Notice in both photographs how the similar looking nipples are placed perfectly at the end of the breast. Let's see a martian do that.
rd- check out and see if you can see Ginger Baker on your left as you look at beyondpareidolia.shutterfly.com/1148 .
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