My pareidolia knows no bounds.

<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Marsevidence01</i>
<br />What I see here is either a case of official "debunking" or a seriously bad case of cognitive dissonance.
Malcolm Scott
<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote"> I think the "debunking" is being done "in situ".

rd

<b>[pareidoliac] "Anyone who ... is an obvious idiot ..."</b>

(I must still be in 'benevolent mode'.)

There are not many rules here.

The Big One is: you can attack the message but not the messenger.

You get a warning this time. And you are expected to apologize.

But I sense you are saying bye. It's your choice at this point, but note that future posts from you are subject to interference until that apology is issued and accepted.

Even though you have not supported your ideas very well so far, that could change. We are an open and tolerant group here, and most of the time we are willing to help others grow. Whether or not you do is of course up to you. And it is actually not required.

As long as you remember the Big One.

LB

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pareidoliac Posted - 30 Sep 2014 : 16:51:39

rd- "If I dream I pushed you off a cliff, or shot you, or something else quite fatal in my dream world, what happens to you? Do you wake up? Die? Are you dreaming you got pushed off the cliff my(sic) me and died?

What happens to me in the dream world?
In your dream world i die. What happens next is in your dream. Dreams and rationality don't mix in the dream or waking state.

All we know for sure is that we appear to have consciousness and perceive patterns. The rest of the words are a matter of interpretation. Life and Death are ideas. Our spirit is made of light and lives forever like all light.

Anyone who wears a $ as a symbol is an obvious idiot or a clown. Anyone can say anything and rationalize it. Rational is just a good word to train people to follow what is called rational. Next they go to war because it seems rational to their shallow minds including Einstein who gave us the bomb. Grigory Perelman is obviously the only rational person. Lots of luck to us all.
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When we look at the picture of Madrid, there's very little reason for squinting, and <b>and that image has slightly LESS resolution than the HiRise.</b>

Think about it.

rd
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Well this is only partly correct. The MRO hirise camera has considerably lower signal to noise ratio than the Madrid image especially in the more interesting images which have been combined into super pixels (2 X 2 and 4 X 4 binning) hmmm? So not a good comparison by my calculations. However, I have been working with some new 3D software recently which has produced much greater clarity. I will be posting a few intriguing 3D videos for review shortly.

Btw, to really evaluate the Martian surface with any substance, I've put the 2D images on the back burner...3D IS the only way to go....depth of field IS everything and shows far greater resolution. Now if we can only get HiRise to acquire 1 X 1 binning in the stereo files of the places of REAL interest.

Malcolm Scott

<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Marsevidence01</i>
<br />Well this is only partly correct. The MRO hirise camera has considerably lower signal to noise ratio than the Madrid image especially in the more interesting images which have been combined into super pixels (2 X 2 and 4 X 4 binning) hmmm? So not a good comparison by my calculations.Malcolm Scott<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">
I just looked at 10 images at random on the HiRise website and they were all 1 x 1 binning, ~26cm/p, images approx. ~80cm resolved (approx 32 inches). Yes it's true about the fact that there are images that have been combined into super pixels, but as a general rule they do that for a purpose, and they are usually not concerned about the slight loss of resolution (if we took a picture of a car, would it matter if there were 7 million or 9 million pixels? Probably not).

So, the simple fact of the matter is that there are probably thousands of 1 x 1 binning images from the HiRise, and yet we're still squinting to see what in fact you claim you see. It's actually gotten quite boring.

<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"> However, I have been working with some new 3D software recently which has produced much greater clarity. I will be posting a few intriguing 3D videos for review shortly.Malcolm Scott<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">I wait with baited breath...<i>YAAWWWWNNNNNNN</i>

<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">...3D IS the only way to go....Malcolm Scott<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">And yet we're still squinting.

<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">depth of field IS everything and shows far greater resolution. Now if we can only get HiRise to acquire 1 X 1 binning in the stereo files of the places of REAL interest.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">It's not gonna matter.



rd

<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Anyone who wears a $ ... pareidoliac<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">She used the dollar sign merely as a symbol of man's achievement qua man. What does it take to make money? Why are some good at it, and others aren't? Now, of course, I'm speaking of making money honestly, not through devious or crooked means? What does it take? If you examine it closely, you find some of man's greatest characteristics in the man who makes money (who has money):

<i> <ul><li>1. Honesty </li><li>2. Integrity </li><li>3. Work ethic </li><li>4. Intelligence </li><li>5. Dependability </li><li>6. Vision </li><li>7. Risk taking <li>8. Frugality </li><li>9. Problem solving </li><li>10. Belief in oneself </li></li></ul></i>

To name a few. I could go on, but you get the point. I can certainly see why she did it, and after reading everything she ever wrote, and looking at the world around us now, I'd say Ayn Rand was a genius.

rd

rderosa - marsevidence01

You guys are funny.

Still, I enjoy looking over the shoulder of two reasonably (or at least apparently) competent individuals as they slap each other around.