T or E

Prospecting is my game for now. Here are some more. They're all from M0304877, so we'll just list their nicknames.

"Batman," I just noticed this face can be seen two ways; frontal and profile left (our left). The BM look was in profile.



Batman 2



"Zorba"



"Gretta," this image can also be seen two ways; a young girl looking toward us, and an old woman's profile looking down.



"Grant"



Grant 2



Neil

An interesting thing about all of the faces we have been posting in the last few days is that all are (more or less) north oriented, taken from map projected hi-res MSSS images just as you see them. There has been no rotation, only the usual brightness and contrast, and sometimes midtone adjustment, and selective colorizing to assist in visualization--as in a key. Most are relatively small, from around 50 m dia. to 350 m. A couple are larger, and one "Ugly Woman," around the size of the Cydonia Face. All seem to be flat art, but one or two not yet posted are made on, or out of, obvious outcroppings or mesas.

Baring Hoax, which Tom says is highly unlikely, I have a theory about these faces, but prefer to reserve it for now and get out on the table all we can find first. We are only looking in the Valles Marineris system for this project, but a similar project could possibly be conducted in the vicinity of the Profile Image & Family, and also in the vicinity of Crownface. Such a project has already been done in the Cydonia region by Tom and others.

Neil

<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">I think these clusters of images that Neil has been posting represent some of the best arguments for artificiality that I've seen so far. RD<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">

Yes, but what kind of artificiality? I think it should be obvious to anyone who has been paying attention that images like the Clown, tha Saint, and a few more (some of which have not been posted yet), are definately artificial in that they are not the product of pareidolia. But the question is, are they really on the Martian landscape? Or did someone take a batch of comic strip images and graft them into the MSSS raw data?

Are there any photo imaging technicians reading these posts who are capable of analyzing the raw data to see if this is so?

Neil

<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by neilderosa</i>
<br />Are there any photo imaging technicians reading these posts who are capable of analyzing the raw data to see if this is so?<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">This issue first came up with the first 1998 Cydonia image, and later with the so-called "symbols". The answer to the issue is a bit like the answer to "Is my encryption good enough?", because it depends on how much in the way of man-hours and resources you imagine that someone is willing to invest in the project.

As a first approximation, the grafting work of any amateur will be obvious because the feature of interest will have its own pixels, the background will have its pixels, and the boundary will have no "mixed" pixels that are part feature and part background. Inspections to date have not turned up any cases of such grafting.

But with a few hundred man hours of programming by an image processing specialist, one could modify all the border pixels so that each pixel had exactly the right proportion of background and feature. It would then be impossible even for an expert to determine that the image had been modified -- for the moment. Of course, as soon as any other nation's space program takes its own picture, the fraud is discovered and heads roll and criminal charges of destruction of public property are leveled. Even without waiting for another space program, the insane perpetrator would have to be ever vigilant because another image of the same area could come in at any time, and he would have to make corresponding modifications to that image, allowing for different camera and Sun angles and brightness/contrast settings.

Discovery of the crime would always be just a slip away, and JPL would likely lose its billion-dollar-a-year contract with NASA over it. So the only apparent logic behind such a move would be to sabotage JPL and bring the agency down. Normally, though, such criminals are not that talented, dedicated, or clever.

Meanwhile, back on Earth, it is just so destructive to rational thought processes to think in conspiratorial terms, absent the slightest hint of a conspiracy that cannot be more easily explained by bias and vested interests. It not only wastes the time of researchers, but also angers otherwise rational persons on the JPL side, and creates more strong biases and vested interests than already exist. It is a lose-lose hypothesis, and I think it best to avoid it. -|Tom|-

Hey Neil,

Except for your Zorba, I don't see the faces! I wish you would make keys for them. Descriptions just don't work for me. As an example, here's one of the earlier unnamed profiles I found. Let's call her woman facing left:



Emanuel

<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">here's one of the earlier unnamed profiles I found. Emanuel<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">

I'm getting so attuned to spotting these things I can even see yours now, Emanuel. (Heh, heh). And I'm going for artificial on this one. Where is she from? (Strip ID #)

By the way your "Woman Facing Left" also has a neck and shoulders that you neglected to colorize for your key. It's what they called a "bust" in the old days. And she has something like a fedora hat on.

I may make keys for them at some point. Right now I'm too busy churning them out.

Regards,

Neil