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17 years 5 months ago #19885
by cosmicsurfer
Replied by cosmicsurfer on topic Reply from John Rickey
Hi Stoat,
Now I am wondering if the shadows that you are describing are ORIGINAL UNIVERSE high energy voids. Maybe voids are more like capacitors between the forward positive, and reverse negative wave. They dampen the FTL demodulation frequencies that might otherwise destroy/blow apart the processes from such high amounts of energy pouring through matter.
You said, "Another thing I'm toying with, is the idea that if the speed of light was once the same as the speed of gravity, then the sudden condensation of matter, as the speed of light fell, would produce lots of tiny shards of holographic matter. Oddly this doesn't need a big bang, just a precipitous collapse of the speed of light."
Exactly, correct because if scales are made from fractionated cascade assemblies of waveforms from an original higher frequency source....Maybe the primal void is the capacitor and we will find that a small part of the great void from the first fractionated source in all things. You cannot divide up creating universes without having a small portion of original creation within secondary, tertiary, on and on cascades of lower scale interactions.
If the shadow, that you describe is the intangable void a place that might resonate just like the original source it could hold a charge, do anything it wanted in maintaining the dampening process of FTL forward/reverse motion. Otherwise, the engineering marvel of atom would be blown apart by the incoming FTL frequencies/currents. But, in most cases it is not blown apart because of the extreme RIGID SPATIAL RELATIONSHIPS maintained within the atom.
Most likely the nuetral nucleous must contain a much deeper INFINITY WELL (shadow/void) then the Proton, electrons. Is the WELL the shadow the anchor for all of these interactions? Maybe the shadow is the FTL wave entering and leaving, whereas the gap is an ORIGINAL SOURCE void split apart from the first I hate to say singularity because in this case it actually is the CASIMIR effect glue holding UNIVERSE together.
John
Now I am wondering if the shadows that you are describing are ORIGINAL UNIVERSE high energy voids. Maybe voids are more like capacitors between the forward positive, and reverse negative wave. They dampen the FTL demodulation frequencies that might otherwise destroy/blow apart the processes from such high amounts of energy pouring through matter.
You said, "Another thing I'm toying with, is the idea that if the speed of light was once the same as the speed of gravity, then the sudden condensation of matter, as the speed of light fell, would produce lots of tiny shards of holographic matter. Oddly this doesn't need a big bang, just a precipitous collapse of the speed of light."
Exactly, correct because if scales are made from fractionated cascade assemblies of waveforms from an original higher frequency source....Maybe the primal void is the capacitor and we will find that a small part of the great void from the first fractionated source in all things. You cannot divide up creating universes without having a small portion of original creation within secondary, tertiary, on and on cascades of lower scale interactions.
If the shadow, that you describe is the intangable void a place that might resonate just like the original source it could hold a charge, do anything it wanted in maintaining the dampening process of FTL forward/reverse motion. Otherwise, the engineering marvel of atom would be blown apart by the incoming FTL frequencies/currents. But, in most cases it is not blown apart because of the extreme RIGID SPATIAL RELATIONSHIPS maintained within the atom.
Most likely the nuetral nucleous must contain a much deeper INFINITY WELL (shadow/void) then the Proton, electrons. Is the WELL the shadow the anchor for all of these interactions? Maybe the shadow is the FTL wave entering and leaving, whereas the gap is an ORIGINAL SOURCE void split apart from the first I hate to say singularity because in this case it actually is the CASIMIR effect glue holding UNIVERSE together.
John
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17 years 5 months ago #19638
by Stoat
Replied by Stoat on topic Reply from Robert Turner
Hi John, if we accept the idea of the proton as a bose einstein condensate, in which we have "slid" the speed of gravity down to that of light, and "slid" down the speed of light to a snail's pace, then h becomes much smaller. It also helps us think about just how miniscule electromagnetic energy is, compared to the huge amounts of gravitational energy contained in the vacuum.
Now, if an ftl particle enters the aether "atmosphere", that's down to the gravitational mass of a quark, it slows right down. At the boundary of the quark it's at light speed. This odd "electron like" particle, the hot potato, is moving round the three quarks and it's altering the energy density of each quark in turn. I read that as a change in opacity to fll particles.
Particles in an intense field show wave properties, they are refracted through the quarks, and some of them end up in the shadow tubes between quarks. Once inside, they move at their ftl speed, which is in the 20 billion c range.
Note that there is a bit of a worry about the casimir effect among supersymmetry theorists, in that it seems to exclude the idea of the "photino." But with this model, there are no photinos to be had in the shadow. Only the flow of gravitational enegy can take place inside, and only at the edge of the penumbra shadow could any electromagnetic effects happen. The penumbra part of the shadow for each quark could act like a capacitor but we still don't have a good model of what distortions, two aether atmospheres, close together would have.
Another worry that is related to this, is that we should be able to just reverse the universe and have it still work the same. All the protons become neutrons, photons become photinos and so on. Now, the CERN boys see strings as strings, and not as shadows. They also don't see said strings as containing ftl energy flows. They try to reverse the contents of branes and end up in a bit of a mess.
I would argue, that a shadow is a shadow, there can be no such thing as an anti shadow. It would still be some sort of ftl wave guide in either a pos or neg universe.
(Edited) [] Almost forgot [] the speed of light, speed of gravity ratio gives us one over six trillion. Our B meson is swopping back and forth between its antiparticle in about a trillionth of a second. That means it's in the ball park.
Now, if an ftl particle enters the aether "atmosphere", that's down to the gravitational mass of a quark, it slows right down. At the boundary of the quark it's at light speed. This odd "electron like" particle, the hot potato, is moving round the three quarks and it's altering the energy density of each quark in turn. I read that as a change in opacity to fll particles.
Particles in an intense field show wave properties, they are refracted through the quarks, and some of them end up in the shadow tubes between quarks. Once inside, they move at their ftl speed, which is in the 20 billion c range.
Note that there is a bit of a worry about the casimir effect among supersymmetry theorists, in that it seems to exclude the idea of the "photino." But with this model, there are no photinos to be had in the shadow. Only the flow of gravitational enegy can take place inside, and only at the edge of the penumbra shadow could any electromagnetic effects happen. The penumbra part of the shadow for each quark could act like a capacitor but we still don't have a good model of what distortions, two aether atmospheres, close together would have.
Another worry that is related to this, is that we should be able to just reverse the universe and have it still work the same. All the protons become neutrons, photons become photinos and so on. Now, the CERN boys see strings as strings, and not as shadows. They also don't see said strings as containing ftl energy flows. They try to reverse the contents of branes and end up in a bit of a mess.
I would argue, that a shadow is a shadow, there can be no such thing as an anti shadow. It would still be some sort of ftl wave guide in either a pos or neg universe.
(Edited) [] Almost forgot [] the speed of light, speed of gravity ratio gives us one over six trillion. Our B meson is swopping back and forth between its antiparticle in about a trillionth of a second. That means it's in the ball park.
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17 years 5 months ago #19600
by Stoat
Replied by Stoat on topic Reply from Robert Turner
Has anybody got a half way decent lab, and a bunch of students laying about like loppy dogs? Suppose we had a equalateral triangle drawn out, and we place a small mirror at each of its points. Make one of these a half mirror. Mount the thing on a turntable and shine a laser through the half mirror. It will start to rotate, an impulse is moving round the three mirrors.
Ask the students a few questions. What happens if the mirrors can move in and out? What happens if the refractive index of one of teh mirrors could go negative? What happens if the whole turntable is moved towards, or away, from the laser? What happens if we add a spherical mirror at the mass centre?
Then one can sit back and read the paper, while the students do all the work []
[] That last question is just because I've always been interested in star delta starters. A gravitational star delta starter would be lovely. No idea what it would do but if we can play a sort of kirchoff's laws with shadows, then we can knock spots off nanotech circuits [8D]
(Edited) Hmm... That thing that looks like an electron. It has unit charge and it cannot be made of quarks. We could use that for our star delta starter.
Ask the students a few questions. What happens if the mirrors can move in and out? What happens if the refractive index of one of teh mirrors could go negative? What happens if the whole turntable is moved towards, or away, from the laser? What happens if we add a spherical mirror at the mass centre?
Then one can sit back and read the paper, while the students do all the work []
[] That last question is just because I've always been interested in star delta starters. A gravitational star delta starter would be lovely. No idea what it would do but if we can play a sort of kirchoff's laws with shadows, then we can knock spots off nanotech circuits [8D]
(Edited) Hmm... That thing that looks like an electron. It has unit charge and it cannot be made of quarks. We could use that for our star delta starter.
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17 years 5 months ago #19538
by Stoat
Replied by Stoat on topic Reply from Robert Turner
Oh, it struck me that a lot of people will never have seen an old fashioned star delta starter. Now they just look like a box with two buttons. Say I've got an industrial press, ran by a three phase electric motor. We can't simply switch this brute on. By connecting its coils together so that the coil ends are shorted out in a star, we can dissipate three times the energy that the delta wirtng set up can. What we are doing is allowing the motor to overcome the inertia of the system, and not push a back emf into the grid.
If a proton can be wired up as a star delta, then it can have a better power factor. Now, it doesn't have a balanced load, so think of it as a domestic user proton. A town where the grid is divided up into three, and they run loads, one phase to neutral.
If our proton jumps back and forth between a delta shadow set up and a star set up, the star node in this case that electron like thing, may have a shadow connecting it to the star node of a neutron. But, it looks like that node is the centre of gravitational mass of the quark system. By rights absolutely nothing can move these two nodes. So we get the "sparkies" to wire things up so that a trickle current can flow in this neutral wire. The speed of light. However, this is inside a region of space where the speed of light is very very slow. The only way I can think of for this to happen, is that this trickle current runs down the penumbra part of the shadow cone. Otherwise the speed of gravity would hav to slow down itself, to very near zero.
(Edited) remember when I said that an alpha partlicle is shaped like a tetrahedron, with its corners cut off. Allow a star connection and that restores the tetrahedron. The neutral shadow "wire" is connected to to the universe's chassis, not to absolute zero.
If a proton can be wired up as a star delta, then it can have a better power factor. Now, it doesn't have a balanced load, so think of it as a domestic user proton. A town where the grid is divided up into three, and they run loads, one phase to neutral.
If our proton jumps back and forth between a delta shadow set up and a star set up, the star node in this case that electron like thing, may have a shadow connecting it to the star node of a neutron. But, it looks like that node is the centre of gravitational mass of the quark system. By rights absolutely nothing can move these two nodes. So we get the "sparkies" to wire things up so that a trickle current can flow in this neutral wire. The speed of light. However, this is inside a region of space where the speed of light is very very slow. The only way I can think of for this to happen, is that this trickle current runs down the penumbra part of the shadow cone. Otherwise the speed of gravity would hav to slow down itself, to very near zero.
(Edited) remember when I said that an alpha partlicle is shaped like a tetrahedron, with its corners cut off. Allow a star connection and that restores the tetrahedron. The neutral shadow "wire" is connected to to the universe's chassis, not to absolute zero.
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17 years 5 months ago #17944
by Stoat
Replied by Stoat on topic Reply from Robert Turner
A bit more thought about this.Say that the proton is a tetrahedron, with one of the base points being the node of a star connection. Now push it at thirty degrees, so that it touches one of the triangular faces. This would be a neutron. Now, the star conected node is the inertia handling node, and actually it would be the the three quarks that move towards it. The proton would be a volume and the neutron an area. This would be the difference in mass between a proton and a neutron. The neutron's mass occupies less space.
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17 years 5 months ago #17946
by Stoat
Replied by Stoat on topic Reply from Robert Turner
A little more on this. First point, a three phase, four wire universe might sound a bit too much like a change in trade for a cosmic watchmaker. It's not an argument for design. if we have three quarks and either stings or Le Sage shadows, then we have to look at star delta connections.
Let's say that the idea of a fermion being a bose einstein condensate is merely heuristic. We can look at the speed of gravity as if it were the speed of light. Then we can say that the permeablity of free space times the permitivity of free space, equals the speed of light. We can infer something about the nature of our shadow wave guides in that case.
Let's look at two protons. For each, the three quarks are spinning round the fourth particle which is 'electron like." At some input frequency we would get a star connection, less than or more than, the delta will cut in.
By rights, when the star connection is on, there will be no gravitational energy at the node. Yet the node is at some very small gravitational potential due to it being "earthed" to the speed of light. Note that this node doesn't need a shadow wire. Virtual shadows can be allowed. The inertial frame is its own shadow, so to speak.
When we have a proton and a neutron near to each other, we have four secondary shadows connecting the quarks, and the 'electron/positron like" nodes.The fourth wire pulls a current. A tiny current but if that current weren't there, then the node couldn't move at all. With the proton proton case, both ends of the shadow wire are at the same potential, minus one. There would be no power in the system but charge repulsion will still be there and our shadow secondary wires will be "stretched." These wires are incredibly long, as compared to the wires that connect quarks.I think that the star connection is broken, forcing one proton to become the generator, the other the motor. The "generator' proton then beomes a neutron.
Why is the system unbalanced? No idea [] If we could drop the pot of the "electron like' node to zero, would it whizz off at the speed of gravity? Actually it would be stopping dead, and the rest of the universe would carry on past it. If we have unbalanced loads on our star delta, that would suggest that our quarks can alter their permeability and permittivity. Wouldn't this mean that they are made of something even smaller?
Let's say that the idea of a fermion being a bose einstein condensate is merely heuristic. We can look at the speed of gravity as if it were the speed of light. Then we can say that the permeablity of free space times the permitivity of free space, equals the speed of light. We can infer something about the nature of our shadow wave guides in that case.
Let's look at two protons. For each, the three quarks are spinning round the fourth particle which is 'electron like." At some input frequency we would get a star connection, less than or more than, the delta will cut in.
By rights, when the star connection is on, there will be no gravitational energy at the node. Yet the node is at some very small gravitational potential due to it being "earthed" to the speed of light. Note that this node doesn't need a shadow wire. Virtual shadows can be allowed. The inertial frame is its own shadow, so to speak.
When we have a proton and a neutron near to each other, we have four secondary shadows connecting the quarks, and the 'electron/positron like" nodes.The fourth wire pulls a current. A tiny current but if that current weren't there, then the node couldn't move at all. With the proton proton case, both ends of the shadow wire are at the same potential, minus one. There would be no power in the system but charge repulsion will still be there and our shadow secondary wires will be "stretched." These wires are incredibly long, as compared to the wires that connect quarks.I think that the star connection is broken, forcing one proton to become the generator, the other the motor. The "generator' proton then beomes a neutron.
Why is the system unbalanced? No idea [] If we could drop the pot of the "electron like' node to zero, would it whizz off at the speed of gravity? Actually it would be stopping dead, and the rest of the universe would carry on past it. If we have unbalanced loads on our star delta, that would suggest that our quarks can alter their permeability and permittivity. Wouldn't this mean that they are made of something even smaller?
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