Physics versus Mathematics and Logic.

The unit scale is arbitrary in that if a species of tyrannosaur had risen to a similar level of intelligence as humans, they may well have worked in base 4 because of their more limited number of digits. Arachnids might have chosen base 8, millipedes I'll leave to the really obsessed....

We have ten fingers (or eight and two thumbs if you're pernickity), hence base 10 arithmetic. The examples you quote drop out of this starting point, rather than the other way round. Not sure where the harmonics bit fits in, but I'm a simple soul at heart.
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Arbitrariness assumes arbitration. Who is arbitrating? Humans.

The arbitrariness of these scales does not include tyrannosaurs, except in the "if" universe.

Here we are, in the actual universe

The significance is in the human element, which I propose to readers is more significant than assumed under classical (handicapped)scientific thought.

To fully develop the ideas at hand, I propose that the cohesion of the operations of the universe is the "actual," permanent intelligence, of which human intelligence is a reflection. Observe the variations within human intelligence, which never-the-less cede a universal standard to interrelations among intellects.

The above coincidences are nothing in themselves; they merely point to harmonious interactions, which at some scale will inevitably be actual. Those harmonies need never be contained in the human intellect; they do, however, exist already in the universal intellect.

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Not sure where the harmonics bit fits in, but I'm a simple soul at heart.
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Yes, simplicity will save us; I firmly believe.

Harmonics is meant to identify "observable reality," if we acknowledge "scale" as one of the underlying dimentions of the universe.

A simple image is the resonant frequency accumulation that is exhibited by all things. Any force applied to a body at the resonant frequency of that body will have a cumulative effect, and observation of the resonance will become increasingly observable. May we say that, starting at the quantum level, this coalescence produces observable phenomena.

Nothing that is disharminious with other matter will ever coalesce into observable phenomena on the quantum level. In the observable level, we have Newtons Second Law of Themodynamics: all things tend towards entropy. Disharmony results in dissapation and eventual unobservability. Therefore, all that is observable, is inherantly harmonious, on a universal scale, with all other matter.

As you say, this is <b><i>your</i></b> proposition, and good luck to you. I can't follow it or understand it's relevance to anything I'm interested in (possibly disharmonious, but please accept my apologies). Each of us can propose a theory of the cosmic all, or support an existing concept, strung around some observations about the universe, humanity or that never to be sufficiently cursed egocentric anthropic idea. All well and good, but I came to this site to read and/or discuss science - "The observation, identification, description, experimental investigation, and theoretical explanation of phenomena". Your approach, as with a lot of mainstream science these days seems firmly entrenched in the last part of this statement. It's great fun to toss concepts around and propose theories about what underlies everything, but it's slightly disconcerting when an individual or group states that this <b><i>is</i></b> how things work, based on little beyond faith and some circumstantial evidence. Maybe it is, but I don't know, and I suspect that no one does. Right now, one of the biggest armchair thinkers to stalk the mathematical bitmap is having his life's work deconstructed, and Einstein was no slouch when it came to conceptualising reality. I'll stick to the concrete for argument and leave the abstruse to the religicos and metaphysical intelligentsia.

Atko,

Sorry I'd been a bit obscure. Let me re-explain.

Elsewhere, there have been allusions to an ambient influx of gravitions as being responsible for gravitaional phenomena.

Use the same image; a "harmonious" conception of all phenomena considers all particle/waves as being ambient in all scales. Where there are hamronious interactions, effects are cumulative, and phenomena are observable. It's as simple as that. Prime numbers denote departures from observbility. A first example is in the electron shell powers of the atom. Accepting this, the Universe is "Mathematical."

It's a thorn in the side of theoretical mathematicians who view numbers as "unreal," merely human abstractions. But, never-the-less, it appears to be the only "human" way of perceiving things.

Regarding the tyranosaur, his four-digit based mathematics would only increase obscurity of the previously mentioned correlations. Lets assume that, surpassing our octopus, a 2732-appendage creature (using base 2732 mathematics) has arrived at intelligence on our Earth. Translated into it's mathematics, we would have the following:


absolute zero: -1 degrees celcius
expansion of gas as heated by one (celcius) degree: 1/0.1
one sidereal month (orbit of moon to same position in relation to the background sky): 0.001 days
Moon acceleration around the Earth: 0.1 cm/sec^2
Human conception to birth: 0.1 days
Female oestral cycle: 1 sidereal month

Additional; Human gestation: 0.1 day

Some readers appear to have despaired of finding any real meaning in this. It should serve the opposite function. Namely, meaning is intrinsic to phenomena, and not the other way around (friends, Atko?), and the discovery process is therefore endless, just as the mathematical manifestations of our Universe are endless.

Hey Jimi - I'm always friends - don't mind me if I get cranky - I just tend to find some of the stuff you discuss a tad difficult to follow! I'll try to read up on the general harmonics stuff and come back at you... but the numbers bit you'll never convince me of!

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