Mind and Matter

Do you know the name of consciousness at this level? I do.

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Hi,

Yes, philosophers often fruitless discuss about a much too complex matter for them. Let they start with awareness.

Don't think when you use the word fractal like at exact fractals. We can see roughly the same patterns. We can talk of layers. or LODs, layers of detail. The human, the cell, the protein, the atom.

And we have different circumstances then. So fractal-like deals with circumstances and they can differ largely. In a sense electron circling around a nucleus looks a little bit like planets circling around the sun. But this is only very roughly true.

Mathematics has fractals (Mandelbrott fractals) always repeating the same simple formula. And you can repeat the whole process.

You can say also we mathematicians abstract always a lot. That means forgetting much of the context. So we have to look some more precise the next time.

But leaves of a tree they differ all. Year after year not exactly the same leaves. Probably even moving to other shapes and properties.

Have a nice day

Ed van der Meulen

<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Peter</i>
<br /> It is argued that the structure of the universe fractal like, made of 3D-spiral swirls of basic matter [1]. In a fractal like structure of reality everything is everything at scales of its own. <hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">

By volume, to say the Universe is made of swirls of matter is like saying Earth is made of penguins.

I'd venture a guess that the volume of space occupied by penguins on this planet is similar in ratio to the volume which matter occupies within the Universe - vs. space.

Many think of space as <i>'nothing'</i> - because it is almost invisible, doesn't weigh much, is almost frictionless (except at speeds approaching C), and it tastes like chicken.

to me, consciousness is a product of a live, functioning mind. when the organism/mind dies...poof, no consciousness.