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16 years 7 months ago #20699
by cosmicsurfer
Replied by cosmicsurfer on topic Reply from John Rickey
Hi James, Let's look at electric charge. Earth surface is usually a negative charge while magma is a positive charge. I live on the Big Island of Hawaii and here we have magma that actually could be used to draw a current from the negative charged land. Back to your ideas about air molecules and heating that causes air to rise actually being the result of an antigravity effect-it is possible if the air sets up a charge differential that is positive on top and negative on bottom. I have been studying antigravity and gravity for several years now and just this last several weeks have come to some interesting conclusions.
GRAVITON CYCLE is the result of a CONTINUOUS CREATION Universe, in a nutshell the Universe at micro and macro levels is in constant flux exchange between forward and reverse time.
What I came up with is that magnetism, such as the large scale braided DNA huge rotating bands leaving galactic structures across vast light years is the result of GRAVITON CAPTURE in a GRAVITY FIELD or a GRAVITOSTATIC FIELD. Static because these fields resonate around mass from the large scale collapsing gravitons which is a 4D class motion particle. We only see the shell of activity which radiates around these bands in 3D electromagnetic frequencies.
ESA discovered that superconductor rotating magnetic fields at 6500 RPM creates a trillion times higher then expected gravitomagnetic field. The SEG Searl Device which has been around since 1946 using magnetic rollers that float in perpetual motion around conductor circular plates when reaching 550 RPM in northern hemisphere creates an antigravity effect. Existing theories are at a complete loss how such perpetual motional devices work. That is why I decided to forge ahead in taking a look at all the theories that are out there...and, Meta Model of Pushing Gravity is far ahead of GR geometry type naive gravity models. The point is that everything at extreme distances is in balance between all points. Large scale RSR rigid spacial relationships exist way beyond our capabilities to comprehend.
The GRAVITON CAPTURE phenomenon is where I am now in my investigations, and I am trying to see what the gravity field which operates way above the frequencies of light looks like [I will post ideas on G-FIELD next]---sorry but FTL motions require extremely compact smallest known particles that create huge fields in response to even getting close to matter. See my point???? So, we are talking about a literally whole other spectrum way above that of light.
WARP DRIVE---ANTIGRAVITY CRAFT. No problem, the stronger the G-Field around the craft the faster the ship can move through space and because gravitons travel minimum 20 billion times the speed of light the craft will actually produce huge amounts of antigravitons shooting ahead and out of the extreme motion --- remember this is out of phase 4D motion so literally the craft could become invisible and jump through time. John Rickey
GRAVITON CYCLE is the result of a CONTINUOUS CREATION Universe, in a nutshell the Universe at micro and macro levels is in constant flux exchange between forward and reverse time.
What I came up with is that magnetism, such as the large scale braided DNA huge rotating bands leaving galactic structures across vast light years is the result of GRAVITON CAPTURE in a GRAVITY FIELD or a GRAVITOSTATIC FIELD. Static because these fields resonate around mass from the large scale collapsing gravitons which is a 4D class motion particle. We only see the shell of activity which radiates around these bands in 3D electromagnetic frequencies.
ESA discovered that superconductor rotating magnetic fields at 6500 RPM creates a trillion times higher then expected gravitomagnetic field. The SEG Searl Device which has been around since 1946 using magnetic rollers that float in perpetual motion around conductor circular plates when reaching 550 RPM in northern hemisphere creates an antigravity effect. Existing theories are at a complete loss how such perpetual motional devices work. That is why I decided to forge ahead in taking a look at all the theories that are out there...and, Meta Model of Pushing Gravity is far ahead of GR geometry type naive gravity models. The point is that everything at extreme distances is in balance between all points. Large scale RSR rigid spacial relationships exist way beyond our capabilities to comprehend.
The GRAVITON CAPTURE phenomenon is where I am now in my investigations, and I am trying to see what the gravity field which operates way above the frequencies of light looks like [I will post ideas on G-FIELD next]---sorry but FTL motions require extremely compact smallest known particles that create huge fields in response to even getting close to matter. See my point???? So, we are talking about a literally whole other spectrum way above that of light.
WARP DRIVE---ANTIGRAVITY CRAFT. No problem, the stronger the G-Field around the craft the faster the ship can move through space and because gravitons travel minimum 20 billion times the speed of light the craft will actually produce huge amounts of antigravitons shooting ahead and out of the extreme motion --- remember this is out of phase 4D motion so literally the craft could become invisible and jump through time. John Rickey
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16 years 7 months ago #20249
by Youjaes
Replied by Youjaes on topic Reply from James Youlton
Hi, John.
You've heve been focusing on the properties for a while, as evidenced by your replies. Personally, I've given up on the graviton notion; however, I am willing to enter into a discussion with you on why you believe they exist and what you think their properties are. Here is a partial list of questins to get you started:
1. What is the size of a graviton and how do arrive at your answer?
2. How many gravitons are there per cubic meter of space?
3. Are gravitons evenly distributed throughout space?
4. The original proposition of gravitons is that they carry the gravitational force between masses. Do you agree with this?
5. Why, after over 50 years of the graviton's popularisation by the Bell Labs educational film, "The Strange Case of the Cosmic Rays", hasn't anyone ever detected a graviton?
I can ask lots of other questions if you can answer these, though I'm not requiring you to answer any of them if you don't want to. Personally, I've given up on force carrying particles.
James Youlton
You've heve been focusing on the properties for a while, as evidenced by your replies. Personally, I've given up on the graviton notion; however, I am willing to enter into a discussion with you on why you believe they exist and what you think their properties are. Here is a partial list of questins to get you started:
1. What is the size of a graviton and how do arrive at your answer?
2. How many gravitons are there per cubic meter of space?
3. Are gravitons evenly distributed throughout space?
4. The original proposition of gravitons is that they carry the gravitational force between masses. Do you agree with this?
5. Why, after over 50 years of the graviton's popularisation by the Bell Labs educational film, "The Strange Case of the Cosmic Rays", hasn't anyone ever detected a graviton?
I can ask lots of other questions if you can answer these, though I'm not requiring you to answer any of them if you don't want to. Personally, I've given up on force carrying particles.
James Youlton
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16 years 7 months ago #19984
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Hi James, I was just studying left handedness and the weak force. My goal is to figure out how the graviton interacts and creates the assymetric forces of forward time. You need to re-read my comments above because I answered the reason why you will never see gravitons at least until we can view faster than light higher spectrum radiations. I do not have all the answers to your questions, it is impossible to know how many gravitons pass through our 3D space. But, probably it is such an extreme high number that it would be mind boggling. Regarding "Why Gravitons Exist" that question is easy to answer: Particles do not exist without exchanging energy/force....do you agree? What is that force? Does gravity exist? YES-then there are force carrying particles.
All particles form in matter and antimatter pairs, yet in forward time matter dominates---Why? Parity violations in the weak force, we cannot discern the weak force in any right handed particles.
If matter dominates, you have to ask then why are these pairs of antimatter being created all over the place as right handed particles? Think of our space as a left handed particle or forward time that is paired with a reverse time right handed particle space that is very far away from here. How do particles communicate? Force carriers or they exchange flux the GRAVITON cycle. This is all new territory, and it is complex but easy in a sense to understand that simply put the Universe is in Continuous Creation from this graviton flux exchange.
So James, I think that it is amazing that electrons and positrons form as pairs. Talking about force exchange, just where are the partner pairs of positrons when drawing an electrical current? Outside of the wire???? Lots of mysteries and there has to be some exchange going on during this whole process between the electrons right handed partner.
There are more gravitons zooming around the center of a black hole then out in space. Inverse square rule applies that the further away from mass the less gravitons---In forward time capacitors jump towards the positive pole. Most likely gravitons are left handed and carry a negative charge---they are the smallest particle in our visible universe. Antigravitons carry a positive charge. John
All particles form in matter and antimatter pairs, yet in forward time matter dominates---Why? Parity violations in the weak force, we cannot discern the weak force in any right handed particles.
If matter dominates, you have to ask then why are these pairs of antimatter being created all over the place as right handed particles? Think of our space as a left handed particle or forward time that is paired with a reverse time right handed particle space that is very far away from here. How do particles communicate? Force carriers or they exchange flux the GRAVITON cycle. This is all new territory, and it is complex but easy in a sense to understand that simply put the Universe is in Continuous Creation from this graviton flux exchange.
So James, I think that it is amazing that electrons and positrons form as pairs. Talking about force exchange, just where are the partner pairs of positrons when drawing an electrical current? Outside of the wire???? Lots of mysteries and there has to be some exchange going on during this whole process between the electrons right handed partner.
There are more gravitons zooming around the center of a black hole then out in space. Inverse square rule applies that the further away from mass the less gravitons---In forward time capacitors jump towards the positive pole. Most likely gravitons are left handed and carry a negative charge---they are the smallest particle in our visible universe. Antigravitons carry a positive charge. John
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16 years 7 months ago #20250
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Replied by Stoat on topic Reply from Robert Turner
My guestimate for the mass of a graviton is 4E-97 kilograms, though if the density of vacuum particles is high, then the graviton can have a greater mass 1E-45 kilograms for my, admittedly high mass, for a vacuum particle. I have fewer vacuum particles, about fifty thousand are displaced by an electron, the higgs is lighter but the same mass is displaced. So at the moment Im easy about it.
We cannot detect these sorts of masses, nor can we see something going faster than c. Of course that doesnt mean that we cannot deduce anything from those mass ranges.
We cannot detect these sorts of masses, nor can we see something going faster than c. Of course that doesnt mean that we cannot deduce anything from those mass ranges.
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16 years 7 months ago #19985
by Youjaes
Replied by Youjaes on topic Reply from James Youlton
Hi, John. Please excuse me if I'm not moving fast enough for you but I still have basic questions to ask. You appear to make a lot of blanket statements and specious arguments, such as...
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by cosmicsurfer</i>
<br />Regarding "Why Gravitons Exist" that question is easy to answer: Particles do not exist without exchanging energy/force....do you agree? What is that force? Does gravity exist? YES-then there are force carrying particles.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">
On the first question, I can answer neither for against such a statement. It's simply too broad of a question, so I'm leaning towards the against position based on the problematic idea of being all inclusive. That's just me, here.
On the second question, I again don't have a pat answer. The Coriolis Force is something real to be dealt with in the fields of balistics, meteorology, and navigation. It is also considered an effect and is usually discounted as a force. The way I see it, all forces may share this sort of nature of being an effect.
On your third question, I believe in the observations of gravitation, but I am not convinced of the existence of a real force of gravity for the same reason that I mentioned in my answer to your second question.
And finally, as for your leap of faith in your conclusion that gravitons exist, I don't share your enthusiasm.
Metaphorically, if someone told you that ships disappear in the Bermuda Triangle, so there must be sea monsters, would you mention that planes disappear too? And if they replied, "The sea monsters can fly!", what would you think then? Personally, I'd be tempted to say, "No, it's because of space aliens from the planet Zebulon.", just to suggest that there is more than one possible explanation even though both reasons are highly problematic.
LONG LIVE THE ZEBULESE!!!
James
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by cosmicsurfer</i>
<br />Regarding "Why Gravitons Exist" that question is easy to answer: Particles do not exist without exchanging energy/force....do you agree? What is that force? Does gravity exist? YES-then there are force carrying particles.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">
On the first question, I can answer neither for against such a statement. It's simply too broad of a question, so I'm leaning towards the against position based on the problematic idea of being all inclusive. That's just me, here.
On the second question, I again don't have a pat answer. The Coriolis Force is something real to be dealt with in the fields of balistics, meteorology, and navigation. It is also considered an effect and is usually discounted as a force. The way I see it, all forces may share this sort of nature of being an effect.
On your third question, I believe in the observations of gravitation, but I am not convinced of the existence of a real force of gravity for the same reason that I mentioned in my answer to your second question.
And finally, as for your leap of faith in your conclusion that gravitons exist, I don't share your enthusiasm.
Metaphorically, if someone told you that ships disappear in the Bermuda Triangle, so there must be sea monsters, would you mention that planes disappear too? And if they replied, "The sea monsters can fly!", what would you think then? Personally, I'd be tempted to say, "No, it's because of space aliens from the planet Zebulon.", just to suggest that there is more than one possible explanation even though both reasons are highly problematic.
LONG LIVE THE ZEBULESE!!!
James
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16 years 7 months ago #20251
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Hi James, I am going to get back to my investigations. I will say this that I agree with you that everything you see is an effect. There is no free lunch, and the gravitons that are powering this creation are operating at extremely high power outputs. If the power goes away everything instantly disappears.
You can believe whatever you want, like you stated "Long Live the Zebulese!!!"
It takes a brave spirit to chart new territory. This site, Metaresearch is dedicated to discussing "Deep Reality" and "the Meta Model of the Graviton." It is my hope to discuss Gravity with serious investigators. There are no doubts in my mind that Big Bang, General and Special Relativity are wrong. In fact, the universe energy levels are so much higher then expected creating extreme motion, mass regenerations, power surges in Z machine creating billion degree temperatures, black light power sub ground state plasmas with 1000:1 power ratio's, SEG in perpetual motion, which is the result of field relationships and gravitons---not geometric curved space or warped time!!!!! Existing theory has kept mankind in the dark ages and suppressed potential technologies that tap this extreme energy that passes through everything.
The Universe is balanced between Forward and Reverse Time. That is why matter and antimatter is constantly being formed as pairs, annihilating, and producing gamma rays that operate in two distinct forward and reverse time spectrums. We only see the forward time version of this motion picture that is an effect of this constant attempt to collapse back to zero.
John
You can believe whatever you want, like you stated "Long Live the Zebulese!!!"
It takes a brave spirit to chart new territory. This site, Metaresearch is dedicated to discussing "Deep Reality" and "the Meta Model of the Graviton." It is my hope to discuss Gravity with serious investigators. There are no doubts in my mind that Big Bang, General and Special Relativity are wrong. In fact, the universe energy levels are so much higher then expected creating extreme motion, mass regenerations, power surges in Z machine creating billion degree temperatures, black light power sub ground state plasmas with 1000:1 power ratio's, SEG in perpetual motion, which is the result of field relationships and gravitons---not geometric curved space or warped time!!!!! Existing theory has kept mankind in the dark ages and suppressed potential technologies that tap this extreme energy that passes through everything.
The Universe is balanced between Forward and Reverse Time. That is why matter and antimatter is constantly being formed as pairs, annihilating, and producing gamma rays that operate in two distinct forward and reverse time spectrums. We only see the forward time version of this motion picture that is an effect of this constant attempt to collapse back to zero.
John
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