Mercury's Perihelion Precession

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20 years 5 months ago #10232 by Jim
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This is a very interesting topic and I don't have a good grasp of it. Can you tell me if Jupiter and Saturn have an effect on the 43" parahelion advance? I hope that is not something too obvious since I don't understand any of the reasons why this exists.

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20 years 5 months ago #10233 by tvanflandern
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Jim</i>
<br />This is a very interesting topic and I don't have a good grasp of it. Can you tell me if Jupiter and Saturn have an effect on the 43" parahelion advance?<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">No. The other planets (including Jupiter and Saturn) produce an advance of 532"/cy. The difference between that and the observed 575"/cy advance is the 43"/cy that Einstein was the first to find a reasonable explanation for. -|Tom|-

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20 years 5 months ago #10234 by Jim
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Have you any opinion on something called the electroform model? It is another method of getting the math to suit the data.

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20 years 5 months ago #10282 by Jim
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Since the mass of Jupiter and Saturn cause a large part of the advance of Mercury's perihelion does this also cause the advance of the perihelion of Venus and Earth? I assume the answer is yes. So, it follows then that part of the advance of Mercury's perihelion is caused by Earth and Venus. Is this true or false and if true how much of the advance is caused by the Earth/Venus system? If the Earth/Venus system is included in the 532"/cy part of the advance then how much of that sub total is caused by each system? Jupiter/Saturn and Earth/Venus would both have a part of the total advance of Mercury either way.

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20 years 5 months ago #10283 by tvanflandern
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Jim</i>
<br />how much of the advance is caused by the Earth/Venus system?<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">It is a complex calculation. But the approximate numbers are: Venus 281", Earth 84", Jupiter 153". Why do you care? -|Tom|-

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20 years 5 months ago #11286 by Jim
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I care about this detail because it is a mystery to me. Assuming the math is correct (and I do) there must be a cause for this 43"/cy advance and since I totally reject the belief system that flys the flag of GR, LR or SR and no body has a good insight into the cause that I understand it is something that I kick around from time to time. Not a big deal or anything like that.

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