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The question is weather or not c^2 was around prior to 1900 not 1850. I know it is newer than 1850. And who first used this idea? Was it Maxwell or someone else(if not Einstien)?

S. Tolver Preston, De Pretto and F. Hasenöhrl all predicted mc^2 prior to 1905. In 1888 JJ Thomson derived it from Maxwell's quaternions. I've heard it mentioned in 1899 also but I forget the name of the fellow I was talking with.

F/m=c^2/d is personally my fave derivation because you can see how acceleration is classically xd^2/dt^2 but the proportion's Fd=mc^2. My man Max Plank said P/f=h/t so Pt=hf meaning that light is time cancelling energy and light speed is distance coupling energy.

Lest we not forget the third form of energy, E=Fq where q=E/F providing the inference of E=EF/F meaning that a force always cancels to get an energy or technically E=EGm^2/d^2/Gm^2/d^2.

Therefore Electric-E=E-EKq^2/d^2/Kq^2/d^2 thus E-E=E which's how electromagnetic energy works.

The only argument left is that of my old school boy John Locke himself whom museth a ltd democrazy where the sheople aren't informed enough to cast their own votes allowing for an electoral college of men on a physics high who draw plausibly deniable breaths concerning the ebon operations and high level classifications of certain vacuumotor vehicles that have either been constructed by the Germans and Russians using scalar interferometry and phase conjugate optics or reverse engineered by our own scientists from 'em phenom' crash sites across the globe that the old Locke says the masses at large can't understand. All that meant was that the possible technology that uses what F/m=c^2/d and all the other energy equations implies isn't just possible technology, it's already out there, locked up or being tested, by some govergent (government agent) dude.

Vacuumotor crafts make the war for oil even more pointless than it's already become. I'd like to stress that a national security patent is necessary to be able to own one of these devices on earth and all known em phenom craft that violate the earth's airspace (provided they're travelling slowly enough) will be shot down.

Visit Retired Lt Col Tom Bearden's site to see descriptions of such free energy perpetual motion devices that separate the source collection from the discharge process functioning wholly on hypervirtual action at a distance flux like the planets themselves around the sun.

................................Omni

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Just stick with some mathematical definition of a "conserved quantity". For example, consider the dynamic system x'(t)=f(x(t)) defined for t&gt;=0 and some real-valued function C(x(t)). Note that x'(t) is the time derivative of x(t). Then C(x(t)) is said to be "conserved" when C'(x(t))=0 for all t&gt;=0. For phsyical systems you can readily define the energy as some function C(x(t)), so that C'(x(t))=0 shows that the energy is constant and thus conserved.

I never said energy was not conserved. I am saying matter, which is a form of organized energy is not conserved in that form and reacts to the potential or the entropy of space it is situated in.

Science textbooks are divided if entropy increases or decreases over extremely long time.

Therefore the entropy theory is as good as any other theory.

I am not trying to push these ideas, I am simply trying to show you both sides of the medal.

Omni, You are sure the idea was around prior to 1900 and so am I so that means it is not something Einstein invented. Do you know who did and why? Didn't it have something to do with waves and electric flow? The connection of c^2 and mass to get energy is what Einstein did? And that has never been proven to be an accurate statement but rather an approximation. And as you say f/m=a is very accurate. Good luck with all the appliances you demo in the above post.

Most of the confusion currently surrounding physics is due to the misinterpretation of Newton's 3rd Law for every action there's an equal reaction and opposite reaction. For every cause there's an equal effect and opposite effect so apply this to the energy proportions.

F/m=c^2/d is the action whose equal reaction is the cancellation on both sides whose opposite reaction is the cancellation of mass on one side and the cancellation of distance on the other side of the proportion leaving a=2.998x10^8accel. F/q=F/d is basically the same except it leaves F/q=m/t^2 where Ft=mq/t (E-p=momentum).

P/f=h/t or E/t/t=Et/t is the action whose equal reaction is the cancellation of time on both sides whose opposite reaction is that time's cancelling from the bottom on one side and cancelling from the top on the other so E=E. It could be seen that E/t^2=E/t^2 whose equal reaction is the reciprocation of time whose opposite reaction is that time reciprocates upwards from one side and time reciprocates downwards from the other side of the proportion leaving ma^2=massxaccel^2 which's &gt; E.

Combining the 3 forms of E=EFt/Ft is E=Ep/p or E=E^2/c/E/c thus E^2/c=E^2/c which's the laymans wave cone equation that represents the torusphere. Ep/p also helps GD's entropy because now Q and T both have momentum (obviously).

It's cause E=mc^2 thus E/c=mc hence E/2.998x10^8d=mx2.998x10^8d/t^2 which's mathematically the wholly trinity baby. In terms of the straight forward arrow of time the past action force causes the present equality reaction momentum and the future opposite reaction energy. Backwards, the future theoretical rationalism is the opposite effect strung from the present unity equality effect both caused by the empirical application of the past.

In terms of that carp, entropy increases as time progresses toward the future (imagination) and the entropy decreases as time regresses toward the past (memory). Presently S=Q/T whose E=Ep/p.

Jim, Newton for the longest time thought energy was simply momentum mv but then after much argument he finally acquiesced that energy's mv^2 and as soon as the speed of light was measured m.a.d heads were spittin mc^2. I think it was Bradley in 1728 (year after Newton passed) who measured the speed of light at about 300,000 km/s so rigorously from 1728 on mc^2 was just about in existence and Bradley could have been the first person that said it. And there was definitely some other m.a.d scientists out there before Tesla who realized that E/m=c^2 is massless displacement current that's non-hertzian and doesn't drop off as the square of the distance but their names have gone down in the anals of HIStory. The reason they did it is because they wanted nature to work with them and not against them. September 1905 Einstein just crapitalized Lorentz and the m.a.d scientists laughed their a$$es off at him.

Personally, Jim, I think they just want us to be so dependent upon contrivance and the mechanics of engines and whatnot so that we don't have to force ourselves to become our own vacuumotor device. Expand your inner h-soul mind while contracting your outer K-aura field to integrate them both with your G-spirit body that unifies your macrocosmic aura with your microcosmic soul into your spirisoulaura presently. It's already done for you to a lesser extent but I understand if you don't wanna take the process out to its natural conclusion because I don't want the responsibility of being Supermaneo either.

............................Om