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18 years 10 months ago #16944
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Suppose that Hubble's constant varies sinusoidally along the axis of the CMB velocity. Let the half-period be 138 Mpc = 450 M lt yr. Like iron filings on a vibrating drum, galaxies cluster near the nodes. The Local Group is 100 M lt yr = 30 Mpc = 40 degrees to the left of the center of the Virgo supercluster, which presumably lies on a descending node. The galaxy shell data show that the derivative of the Hubble constant satisfies H'/6=-9.5 at our location, where distance is in units of 1000 km/s redshift, and speed is in km/s. If the amplitude of the sinusoid is 28% of the mean Hubble constant, then the logarithmic derivative of the Hubble constant, matches observed here.
Thus measurements of the Hubble constant over various ranges differ up to +/- 20%. Long-range Hubble constant measurements will be 1/(1+0.28*sin40)=85% of local ones, simulating "accelerating Big Bang expansion". Light, from leftward galaxies within 400 M lt yr, traverses regions with average Hubble constant about equal to our local one. Rightward galaxies (those upstream in the CMB, e.g., Virgo) traverse a region of much lower Hubble constant, simulating a "Great Attractor" near the trough 100+450/2=325 M lt yr out. Estimates of the distance to the "Great Attractor" have been increasing and are now 250 M lt yr.
An elementary integral shows that the galaxy-shell speeds, assuming equal weight per steradian, should peak at 197 Mpc radius (i.e., 14,210 km/s redshift) at 716 km/s, followed by damped sinusoidal fluctuation about the 588 km/s plateau. The function is 1-sin(theta)/theta. Roughly, this is observed (see a graph by Salzer & Haynes).
The above function can be weighted exponentially and integrated using Dwight's table, #861.01. The exponential characteristic length which gives the CMB velocity, is 10,820 km/s redshift, i.e., 3.61%. This improves the empirical local quadratic law's extrapolation, 1%. The observed CMB temperature is 2.73% lower than my original prediction; with correction for redshift, my prediction is now 0.88% low.
Thus measurements of the Hubble constant over various ranges differ up to +/- 20%. Long-range Hubble constant measurements will be 1/(1+0.28*sin40)=85% of local ones, simulating "accelerating Big Bang expansion". Light, from leftward galaxies within 400 M lt yr, traverses regions with average Hubble constant about equal to our local one. Rightward galaxies (those upstream in the CMB, e.g., Virgo) traverse a region of much lower Hubble constant, simulating a "Great Attractor" near the trough 100+450/2=325 M lt yr out. Estimates of the distance to the "Great Attractor" have been increasing and are now 250 M lt yr.
An elementary integral shows that the galaxy-shell speeds, assuming equal weight per steradian, should peak at 197 Mpc radius (i.e., 14,210 km/s redshift) at 716 km/s, followed by damped sinusoidal fluctuation about the 588 km/s plateau. The function is 1-sin(theta)/theta. Roughly, this is observed (see a graph by Salzer & Haynes).
The above function can be weighted exponentially and integrated using Dwight's table, #861.01. The exponential characteristic length which gives the CMB velocity, is 10,820 km/s redshift, i.e., 3.61%. This improves the empirical local quadratic law's extrapolation, 1%. The observed CMB temperature is 2.73% lower than my original prediction; with correction for redshift, my prediction is now 0.88% low.
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18 years 10 months ago #17059
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<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Joe Keller</i>
<br />Suppose that Hubble's constant varies sinusoidally along the axis of the CMB velocity.
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Conclusion: the Earth is the centre of the Universe.
Why do you look for complicated, unjustified theories while elemrntary physics (CREIL effect) explains the periodicities well ?
<br />Suppose that Hubble's constant varies sinusoidally along the axis of the CMB velocity.
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Conclusion: the Earth is the centre of the Universe.
Why do you look for complicated, unjustified theories while elemrntary physics (CREIL effect) explains the periodicities well ?
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Hi JMB!
What's the CREIL effect?
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Thanks to Prof. Rydin, for sending me the article about the periodicity of the distribution of galaxies, from which I obtained the 450 M lt yr estimate. Tifft's 0.024% redshift periodicity is about 1/137 of 450 M lt yr.
The largest shell, of the Salzer & Haynes data that I used to determine H'=dH/dx, is 1.7 radians away on the Hubble wave. Because odd-order Taylor terms cancel over a sphere, only the fourth- and sixth-order terms are appreciable; these reduce the ordinate 16% there. Overall, H' must be 19% larger (i.e. 67 km/s/(1000 km/s redshift)^2), and the y-intercept 33 km/s lower (i.e., 233 km/s), than the quadratic fit suggests.
Salzer & Haynes added 281 km/s, to the actual measured value of the CMB dipole projected onto their axis. The redshifts of galaxy shells presumably were, unlike the CMB dipole, further corrected for the Hubble redshift along the CMB axis between here and the Local Group centroid. M31 (Andromeda) is said to be 3.5x the mass of our galaxy. M33 (Triangulum; near M33), is said to be 0.15x. The distance to M31 is said to be 2.9 M lt yr. Using a Hubble parameter of 72 km/s/Mpc, Salzer & Haynes would have corrected the speed (relative to galaxy shells), projected onto the CMB axis, by cos(angle(M31,CMB))*2.9/3.26*72*3.65/4.65= -46 km/s projected Hubble recession of the Local Group's centroid. So the sun's speed along the CMB axis is 233-281+46= -2 km/s.
That the galactic rotation here should happen to cancel 99% of the galaxy's speed, contradicts the Copernican principle. Oort's law, and the apparent rotation of other galaxies, might be due to rotating ether, not rotation of galaxies. Even the apparent solar apex motion, roughly confirmed though it is by proper motions, might not be due to motion, because its projection on the CMB axis is -10 km/s (standard) or -14 km/s (from Hipparcos objects under 100 pc).
(For the local value of H, I use 72 km/s/Mpc, a value based mainly on the nearest candles, Cepheid variables. See: the Key Project, 2001.)
The new H' corrects the amplitude of the Hubble wave to 33%, and the characteristic redshift of the CMB to 3.19%. So, my prediction of the CMB temperature, is now 0.46% low. The characteristic distance for CMB emission is 3.11 (i.e., about pi) radians on the Hubble wave.
A galactic ether rotating at constant speed (not constant frequency) counterclockwise, would produce Oort's law, because the ether tailwind increases or decreases, along 45 degree paths. Matter ejected radially from the galactic core, would curve into a counterclockwise spiral, until it became too condensed to be blown. This causes spiral arms. Elliptical galaxies might have several superposed disks of rotating ether at different axes.
There is another, local, ether drift discovered by Dayton Miller. It is equal, except for a 5-fold attenuation of that component lying in Earth's equatorial plane, to the solar apex motion. (There also is a 20-fold attenuated term corresponding to Earth's revolution.) Thus it reflects, except for an attenuation due to Earth's rotation, the absolute motion of the sun relative to the extragalactic matrix.
If Oort's ether drift is the wind, Miller's is the current. Utilization of both would allow interstellar sailing.
The largest shell, of the Salzer & Haynes data that I used to determine H'=dH/dx, is 1.7 radians away on the Hubble wave. Because odd-order Taylor terms cancel over a sphere, only the fourth- and sixth-order terms are appreciable; these reduce the ordinate 16% there. Overall, H' must be 19% larger (i.e. 67 km/s/(1000 km/s redshift)^2), and the y-intercept 33 km/s lower (i.e., 233 km/s), than the quadratic fit suggests.
Salzer & Haynes added 281 km/s, to the actual measured value of the CMB dipole projected onto their axis. The redshifts of galaxy shells presumably were, unlike the CMB dipole, further corrected for the Hubble redshift along the CMB axis between here and the Local Group centroid. M31 (Andromeda) is said to be 3.5x the mass of our galaxy. M33 (Triangulum; near M33), is said to be 0.15x. The distance to M31 is said to be 2.9 M lt yr. Using a Hubble parameter of 72 km/s/Mpc, Salzer & Haynes would have corrected the speed (relative to galaxy shells), projected onto the CMB axis, by cos(angle(M31,CMB))*2.9/3.26*72*3.65/4.65= -46 km/s projected Hubble recession of the Local Group's centroid. So the sun's speed along the CMB axis is 233-281+46= -2 km/s.
That the galactic rotation here should happen to cancel 99% of the galaxy's speed, contradicts the Copernican principle. Oort's law, and the apparent rotation of other galaxies, might be due to rotating ether, not rotation of galaxies. Even the apparent solar apex motion, roughly confirmed though it is by proper motions, might not be due to motion, because its projection on the CMB axis is -10 km/s (standard) or -14 km/s (from Hipparcos objects under 100 pc).
(For the local value of H, I use 72 km/s/Mpc, a value based mainly on the nearest candles, Cepheid variables. See: the Key Project, 2001.)
The new H' corrects the amplitude of the Hubble wave to 33%, and the characteristic redshift of the CMB to 3.19%. So, my prediction of the CMB temperature, is now 0.46% low. The characteristic distance for CMB emission is 3.11 (i.e., about pi) radians on the Hubble wave.
A galactic ether rotating at constant speed (not constant frequency) counterclockwise, would produce Oort's law, because the ether tailwind increases or decreases, along 45 degree paths. Matter ejected radially from the galactic core, would curve into a counterclockwise spiral, until it became too condensed to be blown. This causes spiral arms. Elliptical galaxies might have several superposed disks of rotating ether at different axes.
There is another, local, ether drift discovered by Dayton Miller. It is equal, except for a 5-fold attenuation of that component lying in Earth's equatorial plane, to the solar apex motion. (There also is a 20-fold attenuated term corresponding to Earth's revolution.) Thus it reflects, except for an attenuation due to Earth's rotation, the absolute motion of the sun relative to the extragalactic matrix.
If Oort's ether drift is the wind, Miller's is the current. Utilization of both would allow interstellar sailing.
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18 years 10 months ago #14754
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<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Joe Keller</i>
<br />Hi JMB!
What's the CREIL effect?
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There are two types of light-matter interactions:
Usually, the spectroscopists study interactions in which the light exchange a quantified amount of energy with a molecule which jumps from a stationary state to an other.
The parametric light-matter interactions are coherent interactions (this means that light interacts with large sets of molecules, each one playing the same role with the local fields, so that the geometries of the light beams are not much perturbed by the interaction, and the images are not blurred), in which matter leaves only slightly its stationary state during the interaction and returns to its stationary state after.
The simplest parametric interaction is the refraction: the matter is not perturbed permanently, all atoms of a big prism are involved, even if the intensity of the light beam is extremely low.
A problem is keeping the coherence to get a strong effect. If the beams are continuous waves, and propagate in the same direction, they must have the same wavelength with different frequencies (do be distinct), it is only possible in a crystal: therefore crystals are uses to multiply, combine frequencies in laser technology.
In 1968, two authors observed frequency shifts using ultrashort laser pulses, and the experiment is now done involuntarily every day by people who send bits in optical fibres. It is an interaction of several beams which exchange energy to increase their entropy; an increase of energy produces a blueshift, a decrease a redshift. Usually, the radio beams (thermal in particular) are cold (temperature by Planck's law), the light beams are hot. Usually, it is useless to consider the cold beams, because there is thermal radiation everywhere.
Here, the condition of coherence was written by G. L. Lamb Jr in the "Reviews of Modern Physics" a long time ago : the light pulses must be "ultrashort", that is "shorter than all relevant time constant". The acronym CREIL is usually used if this condition is fulfilled by ordinary time-incoherent light, provided that matter in which it propagates have long "relevant time constants" (long meaning longer than several nanoseconds : time-coherence of ordinary light). It is difficult to find matter having so long a collisional time, and so long a Raman type resonance allowing the transfers of energy. Low pressure neutral atomic hydrogen in states 2S and 2P (named here H*) has the required properties, and the astronomical observations show that <b>anomalous frequency shifts appear where there is H*</b>.
H* may be created by various methods:
-1- heating H2 to 100 000 K at a pressure sufficient to avoid a full dissociation
-2- heating H2 to 10 000 K to split it into atoms, and produce the 2P state by a Lyman alpha pumping
-3- cooling a plasma protons + electrons.
-4- more complicated photochemical methods.
Methods 1 and 2 occur in the quasars, method 2 explains the "proximity effect" close to the quasars, method 3 explains the "anomalous acceleration" of Pioneer 10 and 11 probes by a transfer of energy from the solar light to the radio waves where the solar wind cools. This transfer of energy blueshifts the radio waves.
The coupling of the Lyman absorptions and the redshifts produces the periodicity 0.062 of the redshifts, simply by the propagation of far UV light in atomic hydrogen.
For more, look at arxiv.org, the papers physics/0503070 and physics/0507141.
<br />Hi JMB!
What's the CREIL effect?
- Joe
<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">
There are two types of light-matter interactions:
Usually, the spectroscopists study interactions in which the light exchange a quantified amount of energy with a molecule which jumps from a stationary state to an other.
The parametric light-matter interactions are coherent interactions (this means that light interacts with large sets of molecules, each one playing the same role with the local fields, so that the geometries of the light beams are not much perturbed by the interaction, and the images are not blurred), in which matter leaves only slightly its stationary state during the interaction and returns to its stationary state after.
The simplest parametric interaction is the refraction: the matter is not perturbed permanently, all atoms of a big prism are involved, even if the intensity of the light beam is extremely low.
A problem is keeping the coherence to get a strong effect. If the beams are continuous waves, and propagate in the same direction, they must have the same wavelength with different frequencies (do be distinct), it is only possible in a crystal: therefore crystals are uses to multiply, combine frequencies in laser technology.
In 1968, two authors observed frequency shifts using ultrashort laser pulses, and the experiment is now done involuntarily every day by people who send bits in optical fibres. It is an interaction of several beams which exchange energy to increase their entropy; an increase of energy produces a blueshift, a decrease a redshift. Usually, the radio beams (thermal in particular) are cold (temperature by Planck's law), the light beams are hot. Usually, it is useless to consider the cold beams, because there is thermal radiation everywhere.
Here, the condition of coherence was written by G. L. Lamb Jr in the "Reviews of Modern Physics" a long time ago : the light pulses must be "ultrashort", that is "shorter than all relevant time constant". The acronym CREIL is usually used if this condition is fulfilled by ordinary time-incoherent light, provided that matter in which it propagates have long "relevant time constants" (long meaning longer than several nanoseconds : time-coherence of ordinary light). It is difficult to find matter having so long a collisional time, and so long a Raman type resonance allowing the transfers of energy. Low pressure neutral atomic hydrogen in states 2S and 2P (named here H*) has the required properties, and the astronomical observations show that <b>anomalous frequency shifts appear where there is H*</b>.
H* may be created by various methods:
-1- heating H2 to 100 000 K at a pressure sufficient to avoid a full dissociation
-2- heating H2 to 10 000 K to split it into atoms, and produce the 2P state by a Lyman alpha pumping
-3- cooling a plasma protons + electrons.
-4- more complicated photochemical methods.
Methods 1 and 2 occur in the quasars, method 2 explains the "proximity effect" close to the quasars, method 3 explains the "anomalous acceleration" of Pioneer 10 and 11 probes by a transfer of energy from the solar light to the radio waves where the solar wind cools. This transfer of energy blueshifts the radio waves.
The coupling of the Lyman absorptions and the redshifts produces the periodicity 0.062 of the redshifts, simply by the propagation of far UV light in atomic hydrogen.
For more, look at arxiv.org, the papers physics/0503070 and physics/0507141.
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18 years 10 months ago #14755
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Arriving into the solar system, the CMB is blueshifted (amplified) by a CREIL transfer of energy from the solar light (jast as the radio signal from the Pioneer 10 and 11 probes). Did you search a correlation between the anisotropy of the CMB and the solar wind (or the corona) ?
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Arriving into the solar system, the CMB is blueshifted (amplified) by a CREIL transfer of energy from the solar light (jast as the radio signal from the Pioneer 10 and 11 probes). Did you search a correlation between the anisotropy of the CMB and the solar wind (or the corona) ?
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