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<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Larry Burford</i>
<br />For 2D face images, yes. Even though the pictures you mentioned have a little relief to them, they still fall in the category of 2D. (IMO, comments anyone?) You can't walk 180 degrees around then and see their right cheeks. <hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">Ok, I got you now (and presumably Tom, also). I agree a "sculpture" goes heavily in favor of artificial, rather than pareidolia, but I'm not so sure I was ever arguing otherwise. Sure, if we find a Maltese Falcon up there, well then you can call me Martian Man, but that's not exactly what we've been dealing with.

I guess if you had qualified "viewing angles" to "viewing angles of greater than 180 degrees", I might have gotten your point sooner. Like with the "Sparky" demo I did awhile ago on Page 4. She's no pareidolia.



rd

I might have to visit some of the Postcard Statue sites of famous so-called Earthly 3D pareidolia to settle this.

rd

[rd] " ... a 'sculpture' ... &lt;is&gt; not exactly what we've been dealing with."

But it was the focus of Tom's argument all along. At least, that was my impression. Until one thing is known to be artificial, nothing else matters much. And it is so much easier to show artificiality for a 3D object than for a 2D object that it amounts to a waste of time to work with 2D candidates when a 3D candidate exists.

Once a 3D object is shown to be artificial, all of those 2D objects can be viewed in a different "light".

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Man, communicating is amazingly difficult. No es, mi amigo?

<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Larry Burford</i>
<br />But it was the focus of Tom's argument all along. At least, that was my impression...............Man, communicating is amazingly difficult. No es, mi amigo?<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote"> And therein lies the rub. I ain't seen any statues yet, the Cydonia Face notwithstanding.

Perhaps a little Bob Dylan quote might be appropriate:

<i>You raise up your head
And you ask, "Is this where it is?"
And somebody points to you and says
"It's his"
And you say, "What's mine?"
And somebody else says, "Where what is?"
And you say, "Oh my God
Am I here all alone?"

Because something is happening here
But you don't know what it is
Do you, Mister Jones?

</i> Bob Dylan, "Ballad of a Thin Man"

rd

Exactly. If the face can't be shown to be artificial, no mere 2D image has a snowball's chance.

There is one exception, that I've already mentioned - a series of mounds (or pits or rock fields or ...) arranged in a pattern that counts the first n prime numbers, or the first n squares, or some other unambiguous pattern.