My pareidolia knows no bounds.

<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Jim</i>
<br />If power is available why is the rover stuck in place? Maybe the rock was kicked up by the wheels spinning trying to get the rover unstuck. The govt can and does do just about whatever it wants, for sure.
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I think NASA is stuck between a rock and a hardplace on this one.
OK, take a close look at the image in question. Do you see any hint of evidence that this so-called rock was moved from A to B? I do not. If, and it's a big if, we ever get to see another image of this rock, I predict that the glowing mass seen on one side will be either a different shape or not there at all. If this occurs, I will post my reason.

Malcolm Scott

<b>[rderosa] "Are you saying you believe NASA is hiding the truth from us? On a grand scale?"</b>

No, but of course I cannot positively rule it out.

I do not believe in massive and/or multi-generational conspiracies. As you say, someone is bound to spill the beans and that would most likely limit them to no more than one and a half generations.

I'm not saying they can't or even don't exist - just that I do not believe they do.

But there is no doubt in my mind that small, sub-generational conspiracies and "sort of" conspiracies do exist - in large numbers. These can be as small as a single person plotting to scam the "system" for their own gain. Pretty much all politicians that have been in office for more than one or two terms will fall into this category. But people in other professions do this as well.

Of course a single person plotting to game the system is not what most people would call a conspiracy. But visualize a dozen individuals, each elected to a state-wide office, plotting to use their power to adjust the rules so that it will be easier for them to keep that power. And harder for a competitor to acquire that power.

From the outside, a citizen that discovers the patterns of behavior that each of these dozen people exhibits could easily come to the conclusion that they are secretly working together. So their individual efforts are in many ways the functional equivalent of a conspiracy.

Over time they are likely to notice each other, and to support each other in various ways. For the most part no actual conspiracy arises (does 'I'll vote for your amendment if you vote for mine' count?), but it doesn't matter. The effect is the same, or at least similar.

Someone can blow the whistle (and they do), but no one believes because there is little or no evidence, because there is little or no actual conspiracy.

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<br />But there is no doubt in my mind that small, sub-generational conspiracies and "sort of" conspiracies do exist - in large numbers. These can be as small as a single person plotting to scam the "system" for their own gain. Pretty much all politicians that have been in office for more than one or two terms will fall into this category. But people in other professions do this as well.

Of course a single person plotting to game the system is not what most people would call a conspiracy. But visualize a dozen individuals, each elected to a state-wide office, plotting to use their power to adjust the rules so that it will be easier for them to keep that power. And harder for a competitor to acquire that power.

From the outside, a citizen that discovers the patterns of behavior that each of these dozen people exhibits could easily come to the conclusion that they are secretly working together. So their individual efforts are in many ways the functional equivalent of a conspiracy.

Over time they are likely to notice each other, and to support each other in various ways. For the most part no actual conspiracy arises (does 'I'll vote for your amendment if you vote for mine' count?), but it doesn't matter. The effect is the same, or at least similar.

Someone can blow the whistle (and they do), but no one believes because there is little or no evidence, because there is little or no actual conspiracy.
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There's a famous quote from Ayn Rand on the subject of conspiracies, which she was frequently asked about in interviews.

(paraphrasing from memory) "When you investigate a so-called conspiracy and you get to the heart of the matter, what you find is not great conspirators or conspiracies, but rather scurrying cockroaches."

rd

There are only two pictures taken 12 days apart to look at and even these two are suspect in my opinion because anything can be added in by artful folks. Maybe the rock is just cartoon stuff.

Someone can blow the whistle (and they do), but no one believes because there is little or no evidence, because there is little or no actual conspiracy.
rd
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Nowadays, the word conspiracy is banded about without giving too much thought to its meaning thanks in part the overuse of "Hollywood buzz-words". With respect to the issue of the extraterrestrial reality, the more appropriate word is "secrecy" and its perpetuation

Personally, I have seen nothing evil in keeping this reality a secret from humanity and expecially from American society. I think at the time it was the right thing to do. Times have changed however and whether we like it or not, the alien agenda is becoming more and more evident. So the keepers of "the secret" now find themselves scurrying around for a safe haven as they drain as much as they can in the process. Sadly, I feel we are all in for a difficult time in the coming decade once the sheet hits the fan.

I highly recommend watching this video of Linda Moulton Howe at a recent conference in Washington, where she speaks about this subject. I met this lady several years back and was very impressed. She is super intelligent and very well connected!

drive.google.com/file/d/0B--tam0uh-oiNUp...bVE/edit?usp=sharing

I'm really not that big on UFO evidence for obvious reasons, but I found this actually very interesting flying over my place of birth.

drive.google.com/file/d/0B--tam0uh-oibXd...aHc/edit?usp=sharing



Malcolm Scott

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<br />There are only two pictures taken 12 days apart to look at and even these two are suspect in my opinion because anything can be added in by artful folks. Maybe the rock is just cartoon stuff.
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Interesting, I now see other photos posted "around" where the color has been "washed out". Close when you say cartoons.

Malcolm Scott