Faces from the Chasmas

<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by rderosa</i>
<br />do we really believe there's Martian Art here?? Take in this whole scene. Come on!<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">To a skeptical mind, that must appear a plausible argument. I'm not going to suggest looking at it from the perspective of an artificiality proponent, but rather from the perspective of a hypothetical civilization of artists. Where is there a better place on all of Mars for giant artwork than on the massive walls of Valles Marineris? -|Tom|-

<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by tvanflandern</i>
<br />Where is there a better place on all of Mars for giant artwork than on the massive walls of Valles Marineris? -|Tom|-<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">Ok, in that case, I would revise my suggestion to Mark that Cydonia, and the Profile Image should be the first two places investigated close up. Imagine getting close up images of these walls? Like standing in Yosemite Valley, taking pictures of the cliffs and waterfalls. That would end the debate.

rd

Rich, I am glad you revisited my point because I think a formal collection could be used to build public support for a visitation of these specific regions. If nothing else, they would seem to offer great geology for pure science reasons.


Mark Vitrone

After ZM posted images of Cydonia from the ESA Mars Express, I decided to see what they have so far. As Tom said, there are no high resolution images at the level to which we've become accustom with the MOC. But even at 10 m/p we should be able to see some detail.

Here's the west Condor Chasma between around 73 and 76 degrees west longitude.



The base of the canyon wall is around 5 degrees south latitude, more or less. The image is rotated so that north is up as we are used to seeing it. Many of the MOC hi-res faces we have been looking at were found at or near the base of the chasma wall, so I figured, maybe we can see something in color albeit at somewhat lower resolution. It's worth a try anyway.

Neil

<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by neilderosa</i>
<br />Here's the west Condor Chasma between around 73 and 76 degrees west longitude. <hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">You're kidding, right? (see page 7)

rd

A little redundancy is necessary here in order to make my point.

Here is M2100050 woman with pets (formerly "ugly woman"). Note the blocked out section where we had predicted there may be another hidden face of sufficient detail that some enthusiastic worker may have felt compelled to protect the public from it.



Here's a close-up of WWP with eye details indicated. Note the secondary features (hidden from a distance) of the "whites of her eye" (left our view) with black iris/pupil inside it.



Here's WWP in larger context from E1600680 confirmation image.



Now we return to the ESA color image at a somewhat larger scale (because the resolution is insufficient to examine the smaller scale). We see woman w/pets (WWP) inside another face and makes up a small part of the larger overface of a man--his nose in fact. Next to the man is a large face of a smiling woman; we'll call them "Ben and Betty." Both are drawn in the cartoon style but with sufficient detail to claim them as possible art works. To the left of WWP is possibly the smaller blocked out face mentioned above. The smaller face is located on the top of Betty's head and is hard to see at this scale.



The same faces in larger context. Note you can no longer see the WWP feature because of the scale change.



And a larger context showing part of the Chasma with WWP mosaic in multiple scales indicated.



Neil