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18 years 6 months ago #15848
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<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by tvanflandern</i>
<br /> leaving its two moons (Mars & Body C) in mutual orbit until the latter exploded 3.2 mya. The hypothetical civilization that left artifacts on its moon (Mars) inhabited Body C and probably evolved there after the Planet V explosion, following the same pattern of evolution usually attributed to Earth. <hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">
Tom, I assume that if Mars and Body C were in mutual orbit, that Mars took the brunt of the explosion 3.2Ma. Is there any evidence to support that?
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<br /> leaving its two moons (Mars & Body C) in mutual orbit until the latter exploded 3.2 mya. The hypothetical civilization that left artifacts on its moon (Mars) inhabited Body C and probably evolved there after the Planet V explosion, following the same pattern of evolution usually attributed to Earth. <hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">
Tom, I assume that if Mars and Body C were in mutual orbit, that Mars took the brunt of the explosion 3.2Ma. Is there any evidence to support that?
rd
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18 years 6 months ago #15962
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Replied by tvanflandern on topic Reply from Tom Van Flandern
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by rderosa</i>
<br />I assume that if Mars and Body C were in mutual orbit, that Mars took the brunt of the explosion 3.2Ma. Is there any evidence to support that?<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">Yes, lots. But leading the list are the massive, one-time flood evidence (Body C was like Europa, a water world), and the disruption of the hemispheric dichotomy boundary on just one side.
Most of this story, originally published in MRB in 1997, can be found at metaresearch.org/solar%20system/cydonia/...nia/new-evidence.asp -|Tom|-
<br />I assume that if Mars and Body C were in mutual orbit, that Mars took the brunt of the explosion 3.2Ma. Is there any evidence to support that?<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">Yes, lots. But leading the list are the massive, one-time flood evidence (Body C was like Europa, a water world), and the disruption of the hemispheric dichotomy boundary on just one side.
Most of this story, originally published in MRB in 1997, can be found at metaresearch.org/solar%20system/cydonia/...nia/new-evidence.asp -|Tom|-
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18 years 6 months ago #15849
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<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Tom </i>
Yes, lots. But leading the list are the massive, one-time flood evidence (Body C was like Europa, a water world), and the disruption of the hemispheric dichotomy boundary on just one side.
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Can you please give us the coordinates or location where this effect can be seen? I'm specifically referring to the "disruption of the hemispheric dichotomy boundary."
Thanks,
Neil
Yes, lots. But leading the list are the massive, one-time flood evidence (Body C was like Europa, a water world), and the disruption of the hemispheric dichotomy boundary on just one side.
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Can you please give us the coordinates or location where this effect can be seen? I'm specifically referring to the "disruption of the hemispheric dichotomy boundary."
Thanks,
Neil
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18 years 6 months ago #15850
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Replied by tvanflandern on topic Reply from Tom Van Flandern
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by neilderosa</i>
<br />Can you please give us the coordinates or location where this effect can be seen? I'm specifically referring to the "disruption of the hemispheric dichotomy boundary."<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">Figure 7 at the preceding link shows it pretty well. Or any map of Mars designed to bring out cratering or elevation differences would show it. For example:
I trust you know that a great circle on a Mercator projection looks like a sine wave. -|Tom|-
<br />Can you please give us the coordinates or location where this effect can be seen? I'm specifically referring to the "disruption of the hemispheric dichotomy boundary."<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">Figure 7 at the preceding link shows it pretty well. Or any map of Mars designed to bring out cratering or elevation differences would show it. For example:
I trust you know that a great circle on a Mercator projection looks like a sine wave. -|Tom|-
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18 years 6 months ago #15885
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Replied by rderosa on topic Reply from Richard DeRosa
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by tvanflandern</i>
<br />Most of this story, originally published in MRB in 1997, can be found at metaresearch.org/solar%20system/cydonia/...nia/new-evidence.asp
Tom, that was very interesting reading. I have a better idea of the whole piture now.
I do have one very serious problem, though.
If one asteroid hitting the Yucatan Pennisula 65Mya caused a global fire, and mass extinctions on Earth, how would a civilization living on Body C (a mere moon's distance away) survive the explosion of its parent planet, which not only presumably bombarded the heck out of it, but also knocked it out of its orbit, and into a new orbit with Mars, the other moon. Somehow, I just can't picture how this notion of hiding on the other side of the planet did them any good.
rd
<br />Most of this story, originally published in MRB in 1997, can be found at metaresearch.org/solar%20system/cydonia/...nia/new-evidence.asp
Tom, that was very interesting reading. I have a better idea of the whole piture now.
I do have one very serious problem, though.
If one asteroid hitting the Yucatan Pennisula 65Mya caused a global fire, and mass extinctions on Earth, how would a civilization living on Body C (a mere moon's distance away) survive the explosion of its parent planet, which not only presumably bombarded the heck out of it, but also knocked it out of its orbit, and into a new orbit with Mars, the other moon. Somehow, I just can't picture how this notion of hiding on the other side of the planet did them any good.
rd
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18 years 6 months ago #15851
by neilderosa
Replied by neilderosa on topic Reply from Neil DeRosa
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Tom</i>
I trust you know that a great circle on a Mercator projection looks like a sine wave. <hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">
Yes, but maybe you misunderstood, or I misstated my question. To me, "disruption of the hemispheric dichotomy boundary" meant the following, and I thought this was what you were getting at:
I understood from your papers and book, that the explosion of Planet-V bombarded, and added crustal material and thichkness, etc, to the facing hemisphere, which after the 90 deg. polar shift, became the southern hemishphere, more-or-less. As a result, there should be a clear boundry between the exposed hemisphere and the "protected" hemisphere (protected because it was facing away from the explosion.)
When you mentioned a <u><b>disruption</b></u> of the dichotomy boudary, (I took "dichotomy" to mean "a division into two parts that are sharply distiguished and opposed," i.e., the two very different looking hemispheres), I thought you were referring to a <u><b>disruption</b></u> of this clear boundary caused by the explosion of Planet-V. I of course assumed you meant that it was the later explosion of Body-C that did the disruptiing, or blurring of the boundary.
The reason I asked you to show me was that I would like to see something that can be interpreted as evidence of the Body-C explosion, as opposed to the Planet-V explosion. That was what I meant. Is there?
Neil
I trust you know that a great circle on a Mercator projection looks like a sine wave. <hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">
Yes, but maybe you misunderstood, or I misstated my question. To me, "disruption of the hemispheric dichotomy boundary" meant the following, and I thought this was what you were getting at:
I understood from your papers and book, that the explosion of Planet-V bombarded, and added crustal material and thichkness, etc, to the facing hemisphere, which after the 90 deg. polar shift, became the southern hemishphere, more-or-less. As a result, there should be a clear boundry between the exposed hemisphere and the "protected" hemisphere (protected because it was facing away from the explosion.)
When you mentioned a <u><b>disruption</b></u> of the dichotomy boudary, (I took "dichotomy" to mean "a division into two parts that are sharply distiguished and opposed," i.e., the two very different looking hemispheres), I thought you were referring to a <u><b>disruption</b></u> of this clear boundary caused by the explosion of Planet-V. I of course assumed you meant that it was the later explosion of Body-C that did the disruptiing, or blurring of the boundary.
The reason I asked you to show me was that I would like to see something that can be interpreted as evidence of the Body-C explosion, as opposed to the Planet-V explosion. That was what I meant. Is there?
Neil
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