Golf Ball Crater, A Geodesic Dome on Mars?

In my opinion, any presentation hoping to make a reasonable argument for artificiality has to make some coherent comparison to known artificial objects made by humans (including art), and also to show how it could be done at the scale we see it on Mars. This is what ZM has done here visually.

Beside M1501228, there were two confirmation images taken by MGS/MOC of the dome in the crater, but as yet no high resolution image by the MRO that I know of. [Neil]

S0600723


R1901955

Hi Neil,

I'm aware of MOC image R19-01955 and the "convenient" data drop, however I was not aware of S06-00723.

It doesnt even look like the same crater.

Could you provide a link to the original S06-00723 strip?

Thanks,

Zip Monster

<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Hi Neil,

I'm aware of MOC image R19-01955 and the "convenient" data drop, however I was not aware of S06-00723.

It doesnt even look like the same crater.

Could you provide a link to the original S06-00723 strip?

Thanks,

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www.msss.com/moc_gallery/s05_s10/images/S06/S0600723.html

SO6 has better resolution at around 1.5 m/p which allows a little more detail. It still looks pretty uniform in the close-up.[Neil]



[edited, 2/22/08]

Here's a little comparison of the earthly dome's dimensions and its Mars counterpart.

<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">The dome is an aluminum geodesic, 15.8 meters high and 50 meters in diameter. It was built over the 1970-1975 seasons. Since then, blowing snow has slowly buried the structure, and every year the entrance has to be bulldozed free of snow.

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The Mars dome in crater appears to be around 200 meters in diameter, which would make it around 60 meters high, estimated as a proportion of the image strip linked to above. (Obviously, the "diameter" given is really just the width accross the visible section of both domes.)[Neil]

Neal,

as you know, the last image of the domed crater was captured at one of the highest resolution settings available on board the MGS camera, at 1.56 meters, however the crater and dome formation is almost unrecognizable - in its inverted presentation.



Once the original presentation of the crater (Left) is vertically flipped (Center) to correct its orientation and I adjusted the contrast of its dull, flat appearance (Right), the dome is fully visible.




Although no one can insure NASAs veracity...it is what it is...

a domed crater.

Zip Monster

Zipmonster,

Hirise has your image now:

hirise.lpl.arizona.edu/PSP_007230_2170

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<br />Zipmonster,

Hirise has your image now:

hirise.lpl.arizona.edu/PSP_007230_2170


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There was a lot of interest in this dome and the very interesting "tube" also found in this image, plus various tubes in other MGS images in 2001 and earlier. There were 4 discoverers of the dome in 2001; Petranek (being the first), M. Tonnies, J. Danger, and Fitzgerald, (see my thread URLs From Meta Research).

The new hi-res image reinforces my belief that the artificial tube theory is now falsified. We also now see that the dome seems to be similar to the tubes in certain ways. One speculation I've had is that when Mars lost a large part of its atmosphere, perhaps remaining flowing or standing water or slurry was "freeze dried," thus accounting for the crystalline aspect of the tubes and dome surfaces.

Here are Petranek's dome and tube in the new image.