[Tom:] What is the connection between the added graviton and the attraction of the electron? If it is not being continually bombarded, what makes the electron stay in orbit?
My elyson would basically be the same structure as for that of a hydrogen atom in keeping with the MM principle of repeatition at scale, with the difference that gravitons need no <i>new</i> analogous particle over the several orders of magnitude from ordinary matter to elysial matter. Gravitons would be the bombarding particle across these scales, a captured graviton would add to the apparent force imparted by the graviton flux on the elysial electron because some of the fluxing gravitons passing through the cluster of captured gravitons would emerge with velocities lower than that with which they entered. The momentum imparted to the nucleus would be transfered as heat out to the surrounding bound elysons.
I think it comes down to the question of whether or not, at scales between the immediate sub-structure of the elyson and the structure of atoms, it could be the graviton which imparts the forces holding all particles together. If so, and if my conjectures about elysons capturing gravitons is to apply, then based on your idea that gravitational shielding occurs at these scales we might expect that across these scales there is a gradient of gravitational shielding that increases as the size of structures increases. What better candidate particle is there to shield a graviton than another graviton? Accreting gravitons within elyson nucleii would most simply account for this gradient.
The range of masses between elysons (~10^-35 g/cc) and neutrons (~10^-24) is far greater than that of the graviton, which is constrained to << 10^-63 g. This is a large range over which graviton capture could build increasingly larger structures.
[Tom:] how do you get repulsive force?
The repulsive force which keeps atomic scale electrons at a distance from nucleons is due to the physical presence of elysons bound around the nucleons. Likewise, at the elysial scale there might be analogous particles to elysons cushioning the elysial nucleus and preventing elysial electrons from spinning down into it.
Could such a particle be just a smaller version of the elyson? The model would apparently need to scale recursively, ad infinitum. I think the MM accomodates my speculation because of its principle of repetition at scale but it does stress my imagination. It would seem necessary that there do always need to be two classes of particles. What I'm trying to accomplish here is to model the elyson without the need to invoke the recursion of another graviton flux at this scale but it may not work.
However, could an alternative to the need for a 'mini-elyson' be if the elysial nucleus and the elysial electron are charged in the same way as ordinary electrons are, and both possess the same charge?
We have elsewhere on the messageboard discussed your idea that electrons are 'hotter' than protons resulting in a force differential that manifests as attraction between them. A neutron is then a proton that has captured an electron balancing the books on temperature. People following this current discussion are referred to
metaresearch.org/msgboard/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=430
) to put it in context.
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