Wave-particle duality

<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote><font size=2 face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote>[rush]: physicists tell you that sometimes a photon behaves like a wave and sometimes like a particle. Well, we know that light has a lot of wave properties that we conclude by observation. So, a photon by no ways can be a particle. It HAS to be a wave, or at least, something like a wave. Anybody has the same thought? How do Meta Research Model deal with this subject?<hr height=1 noshade id=quote></BLOCKQUOTE id=quote></font id=quote><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size=2 id=quote>

The Meta Model (MM) says pretty much the same thing as you do. Light has many wave properties that cannot be duplicated by particles. There are just two experiments that imply particle properties for light: the photoelectric effect and the Compton effect. But both of these have possible wave explanations also. Therefore, light must be a pure wave.

The details for this and certain other quantum puzzles may be found in chapter five of <i>Dark Matter, Missing Planets and New Comets</i>, available (among other places) through the Meta Research store at: [url] metaresearch.org/store/advanced/default.asp [/url]. Best wishes. -|Tom|-

Thanks Tom.

It is a pleasure to hear it from a physicist.

I am really emotioned by have figured out that there
are people who did not loose the sense of reality.

I am also discussing black holes with some friends and
they insist that it can exist in reality. I'd like to
see your commnets, if you are able to do it, about such
subject. I've started a thread about it on "Big Bang
and alternatives".

Thank you.

How do you define a photon? It is a wave and that's it? Do you define a photon in the same way as main stream science does? (E=hf)

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In MM, light is a wave and that's it. In mainstream physics, light has a dual particle-wave nature, with its particle side named the "photon".

For example, in the photoelectric effect, shining high-frequency light on a metal surface ejects electrons. That is usually interpreted as caused by the collision of a "photon" with the electron. However, models exist in which all three photoelectric-effect phenomena can be caused by energy from light waves without need of colliding particles. -|Tom|-

What about the photon energy? Wave or particle the energy is calculated as E=hf in main stream theory. How do you calculate the energy of a wave of light?

>In MM, light is a wave and that's it.

A wave has to occur in a medium - the elysium. Presumably the elysium consists of "particles". So would the light wave consist of an oscillation of these particles in the same sense as a wave in seawater? Would these elysium particles actually possess the property of mass? So, when a "photon" hits an atom (or molecule) would this actually be the effect seawater lapping at a rock? i.e. it would be "millions" of particles nudging the rock rather than one "bullet" particle - called the photon?

Gregg Wilson