Gravitational Shielding

On another page we were discussing non elastic graviton collisions. if the collisions transfer energy, then can there be net force on the sphere with the gravitons momentum converted into heat? In this case, there is no need for an exact balance. Am I on the right track?<img src=icon_smile_question.gif border=0 align=middle>

There is always a force excerted on the sphere, whether elastic or non elastic collisions occur. The gravity force is the net force between the earth and the sphere.

The question is whether a dense sphere can shield gravity. By just absorbing all gravitons I do not think shielding is accomplished. Shielding would be accomplished if one could make a very dense hollow sphere and place an object in its center where no gravitons could reach. In other words, to shield an ordinary object from gravitons, one must restrict gravitons from reaching the object.

To create an antigraviton machine, one must restrict gravitons from free space but allow scattered gravitons from earth to hit the body. That requires a mechanism for graviton filtering based on a supposed frequency that is different after collisions, and non elastic may help at this point, however, the whole concept seems impossible.

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There is always a force excerted on the sphere, whether elastic or non elastic collisions occur. The gravity force is the net force between the earth and the sphere.

The question is whether a dense sphere can shield gravity. By just absorbing all gravitons I do not think shielding is accomplished. Shielding would be accomplished if one could make a very dense hollow sphere and place an object in its center where no gravitons could reach. In other words, to shield an ordinary object from gravitons, one must restrict gravitons from reaching the object.

To create an antigraviton machine, one must restrict gravitons from free space but allow scattered gravitons from earth to hit the body. That requires a mechanism for graviton filtering based on a supposed frequency that is different after collisions, and non elastic may help at this point, however, the whole concept seems impossible.


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This is interesting in that the goal would be to make an object or vehicle levitate while within Earth's sphere of gravitational influence. Instead of restricting the flow of gravitons from outside of earth, maybe it would be possible to construct a very cold ultradense collection of MI's (possibly some dense element at Bose Condensation? Anywho, after constructing an "impervious" matter bed, perhaps the bottom could be bombarded more than the top or the gravitational medium aftificially concentrated to create a net force in the up direction. Would be sweet.

Mark Vitrone

To levitate an object sitting on Earth you must restrict gravitons comming from outer space to reach it. Gravitons coming from earth are all welcome and needed -- actually that's what levitates the object.

A graviton deflector seems the most realistic way of achieving this. Just rememebr, as soos as gravitons hit the object from the top, the game is lost.

How about collecting gravitons from space and earth, energizing them and using them for propulsion. In essence a material that is either selectively permeable to gravitons or is permeable in only one direction.gravitons impinging from above (space) could then be collected and harvested for energy (this cheats the problem) alternately a material so dense could be constructed that it masks the majority of its mass from "detection" making it easier to move. I think I might be rambling on, besides I could not import the quick sketch of the idea above (that is a good thing, wasnt pretty)

Mark Vitrone

<b>Graviton Sails:

Disclaimer: </b> I am in no way an expert, in fact quite the novice. While I am sufficiently ignorant on fact here, I have for some time speculated on the possibilities of what could be accomplished by blocking gravitons.

Well let’s see where to begin: It seems that all mass must block some gravitons or they would have no affect at all. The greater the mass/density, the more blockage occurs. Having said that if you could find a material (or a dense sphere) that could completely block gravitons, you would have quite the problem on your hands wouldn’t you? It stands to reason that you might instantly create a black hole even if the contents where gravity free (until crushed to oblivion). Really creating an object that successfully blocks gravitons from all side to protect it’s contents would have seemingly catastrophic effects to the world around it.

If you were to create a field that was variably resistant to gravitons then that would have some interesting uses, mostly for simulating the gravity of different masses.

I think the real interesting case would be if you could control the directional flow of gravitons through an object or field, or if you could create your own gravitons. By changing the balance of gravitons even slightly in your favor you could accelerate in space eventually to the speed of gravitons themselves (or close to it). Ideally what I imagine you would want to accomplish is creating an energy field that disrupts the flow of Gravitons one way but not the other (as Mark suggests above), and even better would be if you could adjust the level that the field blocks them. With a device like this you could essentially create a sail that would be able to levitate, or ride gravity like a current accelerating to whatever speed you need as fast as you need.

OK, that’s enough, hopefully some of that babble made sense.

Kevin