No Direct Gravitation-Electromagnetism Interaction

ehd,

Are you saying that there is convincing observational evidence at Sagittarius A that there is NO direct interaction between Gravity and Electromagnetism (ie. gravitational lensing)? You were a little vague.

JR

This would suggest that the energy of a black hole is nearly all locked up as gravitational potential energy. The electromagnetic mass would then have little in the way of an aether atmosphere.

(Edited) I discovered this image which has to be of interest to this thread. A super nova doesn't seem to explode the way i had always imagined it doing,

Hi Stoat,

I think ehd is correct about GR point sources not having lensing. Especially since light is not perpendicular to source and is generated in front of contorted electromagnetic fields. There also could be complete graviton suppression of electromagnetic effects around black holes since ZERO emmissions take place because light can not escape from the focal point of the Gravitostatic fields which operate at FTL speeds.

Gravitostatic fields generate FTL lines of force around objects that are some times visible if surrounded by electromagnetic effects. For instance, in the unusual double triangle nova picture you posted there exists an anomalous super structure that is generating visible light. Notice the nodes and 'box like' latice formations it almost looks to me like there are four jets being generated by an invisible dual disk (invisible four sided object with definite hyperdimensional qualities) hidden at center. This cross firing of positive charged jets works with the exit waves being generated by the GRAVITOSTATIC FIELD and the 'nodes' are annihilation zones where Gamma rays-light source and ANTIGRAVITONS are being produced at FTL speeds. All Aether which operates at higher frequencies then light, is collapsing into mass generating Gravitons and Gravitostatic Fields. The 'leakage you talk about is where we live', actually it is the visible spectrum. We really operate on slim pickings compared to the REAL ENERGY EXCHANGE taking place!!! Forward edge dynamics of this wavefront (MASS fluctuations/regeneration), twists in reverse (forming exit waves-antigravitons heading back to other side of dipole) during TIME based mass regenerations. We live on that edge where light is generated by these FTL interactions.

John

Hi John, In the bec model of the proton we've reduced h to create a situation where the speed of light is very slow and the speed of gravity is at light speed. Also the force of gravity is the strong force at this scale. In this thread "Astrophysics at galaxy center counters Relativity." I looked at inertial energy and gravitational energy being equal when we have a negative refractive index of minus one.

So, lets think of a photon near our quarks, which is very very slow. If we have it in a space of negative refractive index it can pick up energy and go faster. The only energy available to it is gravitational energy. Once it gets some, it can climb back out. Once out it looks like our bog standard photon again but its not. It would be a completely rejuvenated photon. It's filled up its tank and is ready to party [8D][][}]

(Edited) If we could build a "superlens" telescope; and there is every reason to suppose we can; then we could see a black hole. It's not a singularity, it looks rather like that wine bottle bottom. We could also see the photons that have picked up a lot of gravitational energy. Photons that travel at, or near, the speed of gravity.

Now, a year ago there was lots of stuff on how to make a "superlens," on the web. However the people that did it are now working on "cloaking" devices for the military. If the stuff is gone now for that reason, then it's a wonderful case of closing the barn door after the horse is gone.

Hi Stoat,

The wine bottle bottom [black hole] has reverse rotation and is the source for the antimatter jets, it is a link from the other side of our scale-mirror of reverse motion antimatter that keeps our side in motion around a center and from collapsing completely.

Question, so the 'superlens' must be able to see higher frequencies above that of light inorder to see inside a black hole. How do you make such a device? Or, do you just see the effects some how in some sort of Aether rotation? The gravitostatic field around a black hole operates FTL/higher frequencies then light so we cannot possibly see anything it is invisible.

John

Hi John, here's an article on the superlens. Six months ago there was a much fuller explanation but i can't find it anymore. I believe that that has to be down to the military taking an interest, for stealth technology. www.imperial.ac.uk/physics/about/news_events/awards/pendry.htm

I would argue that every bit of matter contains a radius where the r.i. goes negative. In a proton, or neutron, it's tiny, much smaller than h. For a sun it's about 3km in diameter.

So we need a bec material, to slowwn light to a crawl, and we need it to have neg r.i. qualities to allow ftl gravitons/photons to transfer their energy to sub light electrons and photons.

Note that the split ring magnetic resonators in the link article are the tricky bit to make. To get to the magic minus one r.i. we would need to use smaller resonators. That's one of the reasons why the toroidal model of the electron is of interest. In a BEC we do have paired electrons after all.

One thing that has to be noted about this research, they are not looking for neg r.i's in the millions/billions. This is because they don't believe that anything can go faster than light. I would argue that neg r.i. of billions is actually built into the very structure of matter.